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The quarrels between Lithuanians and Poles are really sad to watch, I like both very much. Maybe the roots of this conflict lie in the days of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth which was dominated by Poles and Belarussians (in fact, Belarussians were the main contributors to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, this why many see them as the original Lithuanians and many Belarussian nationalists like to refer to themselves as Litvins) and present-day Lithuanians felt oppressed and have a negative opinion about it.

Quarells are similar to historical ones between us and you. Again, Polish authorities treating Lithuanians as second-class citizens during PLC, and later also nationalist rivalry between Poles and Lithuanians from 1918-1945. Sad thing is that Lithuanians, like Ukrainians, have common interests and had common enemies (USSR and Nazi Germany/Russian and German Imperialism, Ottoman Empire/Tatars etc) and we should have stood together against them as one. This just shows you stupidity of some chauvinist (ashamedly, most were Polish szlachta/politicians).

I like both Lithuanians and Ukrainians very much and it is really pity that relations are soured by silly nonsense like this. All politicians should die.

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You know, I think a lot of this conflict comes from the fact that the Slavs, and even more so the Balts, have to assert themselves as nations on the European and even World stage. The Germans and the French don't have problems, nor do the Spanish and Portuguese, since they have been independent nations on the modern era for much longer. They have found their respective positions and now feel more or less comfortable in them. Like to colleagues who have known each other for some time, they can just read each other and this allows for greater trust. The Slavs and Balts, for obvious reasons, have yet to fully develop their own relations. Things are going good overall, I'd say, but bumps in the road are inevitable.

Lithuania also feel threatened, probably, since they are 3.3 million people while Poland is 38 million. And most Poles in Lithuania live around the capital, Vilnius. So for Lithuanians, some perceived Polonization of their main city (which was in Poland until 1939), is stressful. Also, historically, many influential Lithuanians voluntarily Polonized and were effectively Poles in their professional life, e.g Adam Mickiewicz. Statues of Mickiewicz in Lithuania spell his name in their orthography, for one.

We'll see how this goes.

Good analysis, especially first part.

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