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Sibiryak, do you know who made the haircut Oseledets popular first? This guy. Is he now also a "Eurasian Turk from Kizyach steppes of Northern Caucasus"? ::)

Of course, I know about that glorious Russian man, though the question about his oseledets is not unequivocal. Even according to common known hypothesis, he borrowed the oseledets from pecheneg cultures (those "Eurasian Turk from Kizyach steppes of Northern Caucasus"), and there's no evidence that this style of hair was popular after his death… Personally, I disagree with this opinion, he hadn't oseledets,  this is followed my explanation..

Leo the Deacon describes the peace talks as though he was their witness. But it is hardly so. It may be correct – according to eyewitnesses – Svyatoslav describe appearence, but his story is not credible because of the special predilection to imitate the ancient writers. In this case, as shown by Gaze, a description of Sviatoslav's exterior resembles the description of  Attila by Priscus. (Leo the Deacon. History. M., 1988. S. 214.)

Seriously, compare the description of Attila by the Jordanes and Priscus of Panium and description of Sviatoslav by Lev Deacon:

Jordanes:  He was a man born into the world to shake the nations, the scourge of all lands, who in some way terrified all mankind by the dreadful rumors noised abroad concerning him. He was haughty in his walk, rolling his eyes hither and thither, so that the power of his proud spirit appeared in the movement of his body. He was indeed a lover of war, yet restrained in action, mighty in counsel, gracious to suppliants and lenient to those who were once received into his protection. He was short of stature, with a broad chest and a large head; his eyes were small, his beard thin and sprinkled with gray; and he had a flat nose and a swarthy complexion, showing the evidences of his origin.

Priscus: A luxurious meal, served on silver plate, had been made ready for us and the barbarian guests, but Attila ate nothing but meat on a wooden trencher. In everything else, too, he showed himself temperate; his cup was of wood, while to the guests were given goblets of gold and silver. His dress, too, was quite simple, affecting only to be clean. The sword he carried at his side, the latchets of his Scythian shoes, the bridle of his horse were not adorned, like those of the other Scythians, with gold or gems or anything costly.

Leo the Deacon of Svyatoslav: Show and Sfendoslav, sailed on the river Scythian boat , he sat at the oars and rowed with his entourage, no different from them. Such was his appearance: moderate growth, not too high and not very low, with shaggy eyebrows and bright blue eyes, snub-nosed, with a rare beard, with thick, excessively long hair on her upper lip. His head was completely bald, but it hung on the one hand a tuft of hair – a sign of nobility kind, strong neck, broad chest, and all other parts of the body it is proportionate, but he looked sullen and wild. In one ear and he had a gold earring vdeta: it was adorned with carbuncles, framed by two pearls. His attire was white, and different from his garments only approximate purity.

The absence of Svyatoslav's beard is an error in the translation of an interpreter. In the original Greek was listed pogon epsilomenos, that actually means "rare beard." Haze exactly into Latin and translates – barba rara:

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Striking similarity. But it is not just about the similarities. As Attila of Jordanes, and Priscus, Svyatoslav by Leo Deacon is represented as a man of medium height, with broad chest and snub nose and rare beard. And almost verbatim repetition of words Prisca Lion of clothes that did not differ from the approximate apparel, except clean, leaves no doubt that Leo simply attributed to Svyatoslav the appearance of another well-known enemy of the Roman Empire – Attila, described by his predecessors, only adding to her well-known it features of physical appearance of Rus (light-blue eyes). This conclusion is confirmed by all available historical data to us. Before the advent of the Ukraine Turko-Mongol tribes "Oseledets" been there is unknown. Images of the Scythians and Sarmatians indicate that they wore long hair and beards.

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Additional evidence that "Oseledets" was first brought to the Ukraine by asians, found in the list of names of Bulgarian khans, which lists the ancient rulers of the Bulgar state, including those who ruled in the lands of present-day Ukraine:

Авитохолъ жытъ летъ 300, родъ емоу Дуло, а летъ ем(у) диломъ твиремъ.
Ирник житъ летъ 100 и 8 леть, род ему Дуло, а леть ему диломъ твиремъ.
Гостунъ наместникъ сый 2 лет(а), родъ ему Ерми, а летъ ему дохсъ твиремъ.
Куртъ 60 леть, дръжа, родъ ему Дуло, а летъ ему шегоръ вечемъ.
Безмеръ 3 лет(а), а родъ сему Дуло, а летъ ему шегоръ вечемъ.
Сии 5 кънязь дръжаше княжение обону страну Дуная летъ 500 и 15 остриженами главами.
И потомъ приде на страну Дуная Исперих князь, тожде я доселе.

The Germans, including the Vikings released long hair. This is particularly true of the noble people, and dependent people often had to be cut short (as they say in Russian "in a circle"). But it also applies to the Slavs. Scientists agree that the custom of shaving the head was brought from the East.

Czech Slavic Lyubor Niederle: With regard to hair and beard, for the unmarried Slavs, of course, there was an ancient custom of wearing long, untrimmed hair, brushed on the temples, what we see, for example, the images Guelferbytanus August or the frescoes of the chapel in Znojmo. … In general, the Slavs close-cropped hair was a sign of slavery, and the one who cut her hair free person or a beard, was subjected to punishment. (L.Niederle. Slavic antiquity. M., 2001. Pp. 258-259.)

Dmitry Zelenin: Hair style Oseledets was taken by Ukrainians from the eastern nations. In 1253 it was described by Rubruck in the Golden Horde of Batu on the Volga, and in 1504 the Genoese Georgie pointed to its existence among the Circassians in the Caucasus. (Dmitrij Zelenin. Russische (Ostslavische) Volkskunde. Berlin, 1927. S. 245.) (Last message is especially important due to the fact that in Russia, Ukrainian Cossacks were called Cherkasy, that meant Circassians.)

Hunns:

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First Turks Kahanat

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Bulgar Khan Asparuh

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Battle of the Rus and the Khazars (in the foreground sitting  Khazar)

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So we can confidently assert that the custom of shaving the head of the Slavs and the Rus was completely alien. In Ukraine, it was first entered by the Huns, existed for centuries have lived in the Ukrainian lands of Turko-Mongol tribes – the Avars, Khazars, Pechenegs, Kipchaks, Mongols, Turks, etc., until it was finally borrowed Zaporozhye Cossacks, along with the rest of the Turkic-Mongolian tradition Sich. Appearance, which is attributed to Russian prince Svyatoslav I by Leo the Deacon in fact is the appearance of Attila the Hun ruler. The real appearance of Svyatoslav – with long hair and beard – brought us miniature Greek and Russian chronicles.

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The appearance of Svyatoslav was no different from other Russian princes, whose images have survived to our day.

Oleg

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Vladimir I Svyatoslavovych

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Boris

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Yaroslav I Vladimirovich

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Yaropolk Izyaslavich

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