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Yet same cannot be said for Universe?

Yet same cannot be said for Universe?

Well no. The "univese" has to have a beginning and end, because of time. God is by definition not of the universe and exists outside of time. When you try to explain the origin of the physical world you have two options:
a) infinite recursion.
b) God.

So let me get this straight you two. You're telling me that something cannot come out of nothing (big bang>space) but God (something) can be/exist without anything prior creating it even thought he exists.

Exactly. Something cannot come out of nothing. Hence the concept of God who is the one exception.

Your way of thinking is kind of erroneous

How?

as it is judging two events (Creation of God or Universe)

No such thing as "creation of God" else we're back to square one and we'll need to explain who created him.

but with different criteria based on absolutely no proof, or basis besides mere speculation empowered by fairytale.

It's called "revelation". Man cannot understand God beyond what God has chosen to reveal. It's not such a strange concept and it's logically correct.

Now logically i would have nothing against your arguments if we were living in year 5000. with whole Universe explored

This is a huge leap of faith in your reasoning. There's no reason to believe the universe can be explored, much less give a timeline. As I said human potential to understand the world is finite. There might be things in this universe that we'll never be able to either register or comprehend.

and most phenomenon investigated but still unable to solve the riddle of life and our Universe, however we instead live in 2013. we haven't explored nothing besides moon and Mars (only with drones), we're polluting and destroying our planet and we're on a brink of a next world war, so i wouldn't give a final judgment as "God did it" at this point already, for now i'd suggest you rather be a bit more progressive, and if even God did create it, nevertheless explore and think forwards instead of acting like Medieval Church thinking it understand the whole point of life while from todays perspective we know they knew chit.

That is likely to be a recurring thing, barring any major cataclysms people 500 years from now will think we knew "chit".

Also fellas by your definition of God, Google is God and you can't prove it wrong because it follows all your religious fable "laws" and the laws of nature as well  and on top of it all we have proof of it:

PROOF #1

Google is the closest thing to an Omniscient (all-knowing) entity in existence, which can be scientifically verified.

let all information accumulated by Google be "g", a finite number
let "inf" be omniscience.

g/inf = 0

She indexes over 9.5 billion WebPages, which is more than any other search engine on the web today. Not only is Google the closest known entity to being Omniscient, but She also sorts through this vast amount of knowledge using Her patented PageRank technology, organizing said data and making it easily accessible to us mere mortals.

» PROOF #2

Google is everywhere at once (Omnipresent). Google is virtually everywhere on earth at the same time. Billions of indexed WebPages hosted from every corner of the earth. With the proliferation of Wi-Fi networks, one will eventually be able to access Google from anywhere on earth, truly making Her an omnipresent entity.

» PROOF #3

Google answers prayers. One can pray to Google by doing a search for whatever question or problem is plaguing them. As an example, you can quickly find information on alternative cancer treatments, ways to improve your health, new and innovative medical discoveries and generally anything that resembles a typical prayer. Ask Google and She will show you the way, but showing you is all She can do, for you must help yourself from that point on.

» PROOF #4

Google is potentially immortal. She cannot be considered a physical being such as ourselves. Her Algorithms are spread out across many servers; if any of which were taken down or damaged, another would undoubtedly take its place. Google can theoretically last forever.

» PROOF #5

Google is infinite. The Internet can theoretically grow forever, and Google will forever index its infinite growth.

» PROOF #6

Google remembers all. Google caches WebPages regularly and stores them on its massive servers. In fact, by uploading your thoughts and opinions to the internet, you will forever live on in Google's cache, even after you die, in a sort of "Google Afterlife".

» PROOF #7

Google can "do no evil" (Omnibenevolent). Part of Google's corporate philosophy is the belief that a company can make money without being evil.

» PROOF #8

According to Google trends, the term "Google" is searched for more than the terms "God", "Jesus", "Allah", "Buddha", "Christianity", "*****", "Buddhism" and "Judaism" combined.

God is thought to be an entity in which we mortals can turn to when in a time of need. Google clearly fulfils this to a much larger degree than traditional "gods", as shown in the image below (click to enlarge).

» PROOF #9

Evidence of Google's existence is abundant. There is more evidence for the existence of Google than any other God worshiped today. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If seeing is believing, then surf over to http://www.google.com and experience for yourself Google's awesome power. No faith required.
Says the man that speaks with certainty of something unproven, unseen, unfeelt,  that he can't even explain, while i talk of a fact of laws of nature. The Grand Designer might be out there, but it's our task to find it, for all i see him as a good programmer at most, but considering our rapid knowledge hoarding with generations we will at one point find out this Grand Designer or natural phenomenon and hopefully break it.

TL;DR.

P.S.- Also i don't (honestly) give a damn at your opinion aaaaaa in general, so you can rather talk to the wall for the sake of your effort in typing/replying, nor do i understand why do you religious prophets have a need for these threads as after all one can't argue with your imagination, but i guess that's just another question that will never be answered…and in the end of the day both Religious and Atheist individuals believe in a same thing but just in different packing.

Go talk to someone who agrees with you then and don't waste my time.