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Mostly I consider you Americans very stupid nation. Americans believe to much to their media. I think that american propaganda is the strongest one in the world, nobody will get even close.

Did you heard for england prime minister Cameron and what he said in official statement ? That these attacks are attacks on UK and I – SL- AM and that they don't have anything to do with it. Also I -S – Lmic community of UK said that this has not anything to do with it. I'm agnostic and deist but I know a lot about this religion and imams and these kind of people don't have anything to do with it. You forgot what crimes Chris – tianity did true the history and how much blood was spilled because of it  ;) People should realy study something about Is-l-am before they speak, specialy Americans who should know that 9/11 did not happen because of the faith rather because of their gouvrnment stealing oil and killing innnocent children on Middle East. And if I remember your Bible says eye for a eye, tooth for a tooth not Kur'an wich says you can only defend yourself and kill if your life is in dangerous so 9/11 does not have anything to do with this faith, it has to do with greedy Americans :)

"Mostly I consider you Americans very stupid nation. Americans believe to much to their media. I think that american propaganda is the strongest one in the world, nobody will get even close."

By using such generalities, are you not just as bad?  As for media influence, you could say that about several nations, especially the dominate ones. 

"Did you heard for england prime minister Cameron and what he said in official statement ? That these attacks are attacks on UK and I – SL- AM and that they don't have anything to do with it. Also I -S – Lmic community of UK said that this has not anything to do with it. I'm agnostic and deist but I know a lot about this religion and imams and these kind of people don't have anything to do with it."

The Saudis built mosques and send preachers who are well indoctrinated in extremist though.  They consider all other Islamic teaching to be heretical.  It is Saudi inspired Wahabbists that are responsible for most Islamic terrorism today.  They kill Shiites on pilgrimages to Karbala, attack Sufis in central Asia and blow up markets while fellow Muslims shop.  These preachers are encouraging attacks in Europe, no question about it,  they even admit it in public.

"You forgot what crimes Chris – tianity did true the history and how much blood was spilled because of it  ;) "

The issue here is not Christian crimes, it is off topic…..

"People should realy study something about Is-l-am before they speak, specialy Americans who should know that 9/11 did not happen because of the faith rather because of their gouvrnment stealing oil and killing innnocent children on Middle East. "

I am not ignorant in this issue.  I'm not calling for removal of all Muslims, only removal of those that threaten the safety and traditions that are in Europe.  I have no issue with Bosnian or other Slavic Muslims,  they don't want to kill and overthrow European civilization. 

No one steals their oil.  OPEC actually steals from us with a cartel that restrains competition and the free market.  They set limits on production to increase prices. The leaders of these places steal the money and don't use it to help their own countries.  The Saudi and Kuwaiti rich and some of the most decadent spenders and thieves in the world.  Even the first Gulf War was done because the House of Saud and the Kuwaiti Emir were worried that they would lose all thier money and control.  The Kuwaitis elite partied in Cairo while in exile, and they basically bought the west's military might.  Remember, there were many Arab nations that fought Iraq in that war as well.  Middle Eastern states need to help in killing their own people and fellow Muslims and Christians.  None of this means I am a fan o our M.E. policy, but the people who died in 9/11 had nothing to do with policy and more than 100 victims of the tower attacks were Muslim. 

I'm not a deeply religious man, but I see what is happening with fundamentalism.  The Copts and Iraqi Chrstians are persecuted.  The Yezidis in Iraq are persecuted.  Palestinian Christians are almost all gone after fleeing to escape Israeli or Hamas persecution.  There is a pattern here  that anyone can see. 

One more comment,  an eye for an eye…. is from the Code of Hammurabi originally.

I say none of this with anger or malice against you.  We are members of the same ethnic community and fellow forum members.  I appreciate the chance to exchange opinions and perspectives.