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Anonymous

I didn’t read your whole debate, but here’s my view:
1. Macedonians have the right to call their country Macedonia.
2. Macedonians have the right to call themselves Macedonians.
3. Macedonians have the right to connect their country’s history with the ancient region of Macedonia.
4. Macedonians DON’T have the right to say that ancient Macedonians are the ancestors of modern Macedonians.
5. Macedonians should recognize ancient Macedonians as Greek.

Modern Macedonians are either descendants of Slavs that arrived during the Slavic migrations or mixed Slavs and Greeks.

Bulgarians also have the right to bear the name Bulgarians, while it’s not of Slavic origin.
Many nations or ethnic groups got their name before nationalism. They were proud of their kingdoms even though they were minorities.
Slovaks were proud “Hungarians” even though none of Slovak dialects was recognized during most of the existence of the Hungarian Kingdom.
Not even Hungarian was the official language. It was mostly Latin.
There was a concept called Natio Hungarica.

Please, read the following text and keep in mind that similar stuff can be applied to Macedonians.


Natio Hungarica (Latin for “Hungarian nation”) may refer to:

  • The Latin phrase Natio Hungarica(“Hungarian Nation”) was a medieval and early modern era geographic, institutional and juridico-political category in Kingdom of Hungary without any ethnic connotation.[1] The medieval “Natio Hungarica” consisted only the members of the Hungarian Parliament, which was composed of the nobilityRoman Catholic clergy, and a limited number of enfranchised burghers (regardless of their real ethnicity and mother tongue). The same term was extended later to denominate the whole whole elite with the corporate political rights of parliamentary representation in the early modern period — the Roman Catholic prelates, all magnates, and all nobles. This medieval convention was also adopted officially in the Treaty of Szatmár of 1711 and the Pragmatic Sanction of 1722; remained until 1848, when the Hungarian nobility was abolished; and thereafter acquired a sense of ethnic nationalism.[2][3][4]

TLDR: You can’t mix history with nationalism.
For example, we Slovaks consider Celts and all their artifacts found within Slovak borders as history of “Slovakia” and we’re proud of it. We even have a beer called Kelt:

But we in any way don’t consider Celts as ancestors of Slovaks.
Macedonians should get their shit together, as @Karpivna would say and Greeks should stop being such pussies!

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