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- November 27, 2011 at 10:44 am #342411
The title does not hold what it promises, as it is a piece of Prussianist propaganda – later incorporated by NS – and partly even socially acceptable in the FRG today, which stipulates the claim/theory no Slavs exist at all.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D12607&ei=ywXSTtjwHoa4hAeq3pSiDQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CEUQ7gEwAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSlawenlegende%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D629%26prmd%3DimvnsNovember 27, 2011 at 1:11 pm #368111
"Most East Germans and Austrians descend from either the Balto-Slavic 'Old Prussians', Carantanians, Polabs or Sorbs. I wouldn't claim the Bavarians to be Slavic but one does beg to question that Bavarians probably have more in common with the old Cisapline Gauls or the extinct Goths / Vandals than with some distant Franks in Paris."(…)
There are hardly any Franks in Paris, the Franks are in todays Bavairia, in Franconia in particular.
The German Wiki text about the Germania Slavica is worth a read, there is also a section for Bavaria Slavica. The Swabian parts of Bavaria never had any Slavic natives, but the more eastern regions certainly had.
Just a general remark, I indeed noticed that Germans with Slavic family names or from East Germany/Austria rage when their Slavic heritage is mentioned, they want to be über-German in order to deny their own heritage.November 27, 2011 at 1:18 pm #368112
The Franks may had adopted a Romance language but let's not pretend the Franks in France disappeared.
Everyone knows this is all an issue of 'whether the French are Germanic' (from a non-language point of view) and a lot of the divide stems from realpolitak that the French and Germans had fought wars over the centuries, hence any rapprochement between the French and Germans never occured (except under the E.U. Project).
It's like how some Croats claim to be Iranic (because of Serb mistreatment) and Poles who also experimented with Sarmatism ("How could we ever be related to those jerks in Moscow?!")
Minus the language, the French and most Germans are essentially cousins – no more just because I speak English (because of my Canadian upbringing) that somehow I cease having any connection to my relatives in Ukraine.
The classic: 'just because a dog is born in a stable doesn't mean he is a horse' line.November 27, 2011 at 1:30 pm #368113
Only a Frankish nobility existed in France, but never Frankish settlements. The people of France always were of Gallo-Romanic origin (with local differencences like Bretons etc.). The only exception regarding the Franks is Moselle-Lorraine, which was annexed by France from Germany.December 22, 2011 at 2:16 pm #368114
Dutch and Franconians are true descendants of ancient Franks. Over time of course name was pased to romance speaking people of Gallia. Check out Austrasia (first stage of frankish kindgom) which is almost entirely in dutch and german speaking area.
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