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  • #345024

    Anonymous

    ABU DHABI — Serbian Finance and Economy Minster Mlađan Dinkić and Al Dahra Agricultural Company signed a preliminary agreement in Abu Dhabi on Sunday.

    The agreement between Serbia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) envisages investments in the Serbian agriculture, the Serbian Finance Ministry said in a release.

    Under the preliminary agreement, the leading UAE agro-industrial company Al Dahra will invest around EUR 200mn as part of a joint investment project in eight state-owned agricultural farms.

    Al Dahra will invest EUR 100mnn in the construction of irrigation systems and the purchase of modern equipment while the other EUR 100mn will go into acquiring an 80 percent stake in joint enterprises, in which the state of Serbia will retain a 20 percent owner's share.

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    #409834

    Anonymous

    Не требају нам непријатељи.  ;D

    #409835

    Anonymous

    May not need enemies.. but the government spit a little less on their own people when making agreements.  And what would UAE truly do to Serbia?

    #409836

    Anonymous

    Probably want a ton of kickbacks and bribes.  That 20% might end up really being 10% in the end

    #409837

    Anonymous
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    Probably want a ton of kickbacks and bribes.  That 20% might end up really being 10% in the end

    Exactly. Why did they gave up 80%? They should demanded at least 51%. You don't see French or British governments giving up on strategically important companies

    What I meant to say is they sold an asset for a cheap money.

    #409838

    Anonymous

    This is not exclusive to any nation.  My state wanted to sell the lottery to a company connected to a big political contributor to the governor's  political party.  Another one hired a company that she was friends with to start an auto inspection program that we didn't have to do

    #409839

    Anonymous
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    Не требају нам непријатељи.  ;D

    Kod ovakih ulagatelja? Stvarno ne. ;D And now we just have to wait that our Slovene political dumbasses do something similar. Afterall, we can't stay behind you guys. ;)

    #409840

    Anonymous
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    Why did they gave up 80%? They should demanded at least 51%. You don't see French or British governments giving up on strategically important companies

    Because Srbija is a neo colony

    #409841

    Anonymous

    Personally i have no real attachements to companies. Especially state ones. State should sell them all. State owned companies are usually shyt that is only burden. At least in Slovenia. If they don't make profit they should fall and most of state owned firms don't make it. :)

    But i won't judge this case i don't know what is financial situation but regardless of that on personal level if i were statesmen i would try to give that land to neibourghing farmers instead of "selling" it but it's true that farmers wouldn't be able to invest much into projects such as irrigation. However this is investition and it is good thing.  ;)

    #409842

    Anonymous

    What made me facepalm was the following :

    Al Dahra will invest around EUR 200mn as part of a joint investment project in eight state-owned agricultural farms.

    Serbia has state farms still? They need to eject this communist relic.  Here is problem #1. #2 is gonna be the looming disaster for the Serbian agricultural market. The price of a lot of your grain and vegies ( that isn't subsidized by Abu Dabi) is going to skyrocket which will lead to loansharks snatching up more Serbian agriculture. Does Serbia currently have a problem agriculture?

    #409843

    Anonymous
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    What made me facepalm was the following :

    Serbia has state farms still? They need to eject this communist relic.  Here is problem #1. #2 is gonna be the looming disaster for the Serbian agricultural market. The price of a lot of your grain and vegies ( that isn't subsidized by Abu Dabi) is going to skyrocket which will lead to loansharks snatching up more Serbian agriculture. Does Serbia currently have a problem agriculture?

    Don't be.

    All these politicians were either ex-communists or raised by communists, so they took worst from capitalism and communism.

    #409844

    Anonymous

    ^^ Shao , with such corruption how the hell is the hardworking Serbian farmer supposed to even make a living? I wouldn't be surpised if they tried to sell to foreign markets more ( I know Croatia buys Serbian meat and dairy :P)  Or , they just leave and take their productive energy with them making Serbia hurt even more. Sad news man.

    #409845

    Anonymous
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    ^^ Shao , with such corruption how the hell is the hardworking Serbian farmer supposed to even make a living? I wouldn't be surpised if they tried to sell to foreign markets more ( I know Croatia buys Serbian meat and dairy :P)  Or , they just leave and take their productive energy with them making Serbia hurt even more. Sad news man.

    Not everything is owned by the state. I heard about agricultural unions that are not owned by state and then there are those individuals who own a lot of land so they don't need unions. However small farmers can't make for a living. Serbian farmers indeed sell their products to foreign markets, but not so much in the neighborhood, rather to more distant countries as they ask for larger quantities and long-term deals(for example to Russia).

    The way I see we'll have less and less Serbian made products in Serbia because governments buys cheap, fishy foreign products and sells them on our market as if its Serbian for somewhat smaller price than real Serbian products

    #409846

    Anonymous

    It is western propaganda that state companies cant survive and dont make profit, just "-" in state budget….

    If you look from other side, if u have state companies that make profit that is + to state budget , and they pay taxes too as private companies, so big money which goes to hands of few here would go to state budget and make easier to make social country for all. Free health care, free education, free trains / buses ect….

    Only problem is coruption which eat all of that money and big birocracy….

    It can be solved if ruled by IRON fist. That means if u have state company and if ppl employed there dont care and are corupt you use some money to discover them, for example make fake tender and test their coruption. After 2 or more discovered punish them so hard that rest of people would never do something like that in thousand years…..

    State companies are much better than private, problem is world wasnt rdy after WW2 for communism. But if u dont like communism socialism is also good alternative ….

    On the other side if communism failed in time of cold war what is with capitalism now its failing even harder… You have some % of rich ppl and other living in some matrix beliving they are middle class of community, having enough money for food, cloth, apartment and yearly holiday on sea (like greece)

    #409847

    Anonymous
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    Personally i have no real attachements to companies. Especially state ones. State should sell them all. State owned companies are usually shyt that is only burden. At least in Slovenia. If they don't make profit they should fall and most of state owned firms don't make it. :)

    this and

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    Serbia has state farms still? They need to eject this communist relic.

    state is a bad owner. generally.

    anyway:

    question – why this one investor in particular? (al dahra blabla)
    answer – maybe because noone else could make better offer than them

    question – why only 20% remains as states share, and not 49%?
    answer – because it seems no investor would have agreed on a smaller share >>> no investment >>> gtfo lolz

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