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- December 5, 2012 at 6:34 pm #344845
In English and Polish – W języku polskim i angielskim – by Phoenix (Black Shaman and Wind Whisperer)
Baba Jaga była kochającą i bardzo potężny szaman, respektowane przez wszystkich wsi i plemion. Potem przyszedł ziemia wampiry, ludzi, którzy prowadzą dużą armię pod dowództwem Watykanie. To było w 13 do 15 wieku, kiedy kościół przyszedł do demona Warriors – który udał się do przywódców w Watykanie.
Chcieli Baby Jagi i zmarłych w ziem słowiańskich Balkin, więc najpierw ich zniszczyć jej reputację jako babcia, grzech jest w niebie i na ziemi, która zrzesza najbardziej dotkliwej kary niż oryginał babć.
Potem składa się kłamstwa o jej diecie dzieci i dziecko kradzież, drugi najsurowszą karą, a następnie zabił kobietę, jej muzykę i jej duszy, trzecim najbardziej surową karę.
Te demony szalały przez wieś, las i góry, zabijając wszystkich, którzy byli uzdrowicielami Baba mądrzy mędrcy przeciwko religii i zniszczone nauczania i mitu, aż wszystko, co pozostaje, to jej ciało leżało w błocie, zgwałcona i pobita.
Potem kościół i ich wojownicy demon torturowana i gwałcona aż tylko jej nazwa mówi na próżno, a zdjęcia będą noszone tylko na obliczu ciemności. Chociaż doszliśmy do wyższego świata, zabijanie świętych i syren Alkonost kobiety Sroka.
Po 700 latach niewoli Baby Jagi jest teraz w końcu z powrotem do pełnej wiosny zawsze dostaje w kręgu życia i najbardziej inteligentnych dzieci Matki Ziemi powiedział jej pomoc po raz kolejny. A ona powiedziała, że będzie zadowolony z piosenką w jej słodkim głosem. Wiedząc, że wysyłać demony do piekła jest jedną z jej ulubionych minionych czasów.
Pewnego dnia zapytałem człowieka z Rosji, który przyszedł do księgarni w poszukiwaniu edukacji Indra Shaw, i powiedział, że jest w części dla kobiet boga. On tylko zaśmiał się na mnie i powiedział, poważnie? … Hahahaha nie kobieta lub kobiety, religia i przewrócił oczami, jakby przyszła przyszedł i był we śnie. Ja tylko spojrzał na niego z uśmiechem i mrugnął do mnie w oko!
Image: Konstantin Kalinovich – bookplate (from another post here at Slavorum)
Once Upon a Time, Baba Jaga was a loving and very powerful shaman, respected by all the villages and tribes of her people. Then came the vampires of earth, men who lead large armies under the Vatican's command. This was during the 13th through the 15th century, when came the demon warriors of the church – who followed their Vatican leaders.
They wanted Baba Yaga dead in the Slavic and Balkin lands, so first they destroy her reputation as a Grandmother, a sin under the sky and earth, that reaps the most severe of punishment from the primordial grandmothers.
Then they made up lies about her eating babies and stealing children, the second most severe punishment, then they killed her women, her medicine and her soul, the third most severe punishment.
These demons raged through village, forest and mountain to kill all Baba healers,who were wise sages before religion and then they destroyed her teachings and myth, until all that was left, was her corpse, laid in the mud, raped and beaten.
Then the church and their demon warriors tortured and raped her until only her name would be spoken in vain and images of her would only carry their darkness on her face. Even they entered the upper-worlds, killing her sacred alkonost's, siren's and magpie women.
After 700 years of this oppression Baba Yaga is now, finally returning to wholeness, for spring always does in the circle of life, and Mother Earth has commanded her wisest Baba's to help once again. And she gladly said yes with a song in her sweet voice. Knowing that sending Demons to hell is one of her favorite past times.
One day I asked a man from Russia, who came into the bookstore looking for the teachings of Indra Shaw, and I said he is located in the feminine side of god section. He just laughed at me and said seriously?… Hahahaha there is no female or feminine religion and rolled his eyes as if he had stepped into the future and was in a dream. : ) I just looked at him with a smile, and winked my eye!
Image: Konstantin Kalinovich – bookplate (from another post here at Slavorum)December 5, 2012 at 7:34 pm #406255
Where did you get the "Polish" version? 😮December 5, 2012 at 8:33 pm #406256
Is she the same as 'Baba Roga?'December 5, 2012 at 8:39 pm #406257
AnonymousQuote:Is she the same as 'Baba Roga?'
Yes, she is.December 5, 2012 at 9:00 pm #406258
When I was kid I always imagined baba Roga with horns on her head because "rog" means "horn" in SerbianDecember 5, 2012 at 9:24 pm #406259
Maybe I will be another Russian for you to smile at, but what is the connection between Baba Yaga, Indra Shaw, shamanism and feminine side of god section? Shamanism is a specific Asian and Siberian spiritual practise, not so common among the Slavs in its usual meaning.
This text is quite weird and not alike typical Slavic legend or fairy tale. I believe it's better to get information about Slavic deities in our fairy tales and legends, because despite the great Christian opression our people saved the natural meanings of some Pagan phenomena. There are many interpretations of Baba Yaga character and also the one about Baba Yaga being positive at first, but historians and linguists yet agree that it is negative (although very charismatic and attractive) character.December 5, 2012 at 9:27 pm #406260
In Slovenia we call her Jaga baba, but few actually know the story about her.December 5, 2012 at 9:32 pm #406261
Same here as well.
I knew about Baba Roga only because my grandma and mother mentioned her maybe few times but they never told me any story about her.December 5, 2012 at 9:51 pm #406262
My father used to tell me when i went to bed that Jaga Baba will come from window and take me away if i don't fall asleep. I was fucking scared.December 5, 2012 at 9:55 pm #406263
I am pretty sure Jaga baba lives in my closet. I am just too scared to checkDecember 5, 2012 at 10:27 pm #406264
As far as I know Baba Yaga was a kind of initiator for children, which connects her a bit with shamanic initiate rites. Her norms of conduct were evil, but her role was to initiate kids into the next stage of adulthood. The best example of this is the fairytale “Hansel and Gretel” (Polish "Jaś i Małgosia”) by Grimm brothers who – as known to all – drew extensively on Lusatian Sorbs culture and tradition. There is also Russian version of this fairytale.
Here is an interesting article about Baba Yaga’s magical properties and her shamanistic initiatory role:December 5, 2012 at 10:42 pm #406265
There are 2 movies directed by Alexander Rou in which you can see Baba Yaga as a character:
Zolotye roga aka Baba Yaga (1973):
Ogon, voda i… mednye truby aka Through Fire, Water and… Brass Pipes (1968):
Phoenix, the story that you posted abour Baba Yaga is rather…unusual. Like tqr, I would be also curious to know which is the source.
A thread about Baba Yaga is a good idea, she is such a popular character in Slavic folkore. I would be curious to see which are the differences of her stories in different Slavic countries.
I like the way that Baba Yaga and her house are illustrated:
[img width=551 height=700]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9k2cR8RjSMU/TljMafV-72I/AAAAAAAABEQ/b-GI0o2vyMc/s1600/Ivan-Bilibin-Art-Baba-Yaga.jpg” />
[img width=512 height=700]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Q1_SjwhhrOM/TU3_TVW4InI/AAAAAAAADiQ/3N9P-JHr4bM/s1600/babayagahut.lent.jpg” />
This one is my favorite, I couldn't find the author:December 5, 2012 at 11:48 pm #406266
Mike Mignola's Baba Yaga:
[img width=581 height=700]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m94l803wcJ1r748mso1_1280.jpg” />December 6, 2012 at 6:52 am #406267
AnonymousQuote:This one is my favorite, I couldn't find the author:
It's Ваня ЖуравлевVanja Zhuravlev.December 6, 2012 at 8:25 am #406268
AnonymousQuote:Once Upon a Time, Baba Jaga was a loving and very powerful shaman
I don’t think 'shaman' is the appropriate term to describe Baba Yaga. Maybe a 'forest witch'?
According to philologist and folklorist Vladimir Propp Baba Yaga rewards people with magical things such a magical horse or item. She steals and eats children; or she is a warrior.
We grew up reading fairy-tales, watching animations and movies. There are songs written about her too. She is common in our folklore.
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