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    Anonymous

    I know that some of you live in places that were formally communist. What was it like? Are your countries better now that your no longer communist? In the US we are taught to fear communism and socialism. I have read some about it. BUt I would rather hear from people that actually lived it. Rather then to trust the US media and stuff we are taught in school.

    #423514

    Anonymous
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    I know that some of you live in places that were formally communist. What was it like? Are your countries better now that your no longer communist? In the US we are taught to fear communism and socialism. I have read some about it. BUt I would rather hear from people that actually lived it. Rather then to trust the US media and stuff we are taught in school.

    Well, it depends in which country one lived. The best communist country was without doubt Yugoslavia. People could travel to Western countries and all that. People here now often say that they had it better then than now, because the country took care of you, provided jobs, social security etc. I didn't live in Yugoslavia, so I can't tell you from the first hand, but my parents and grandparents mostly told me good stuff about it. Of course, there often was no coffee, jeans, Coca Cola and some other stuff, but they smugled some from Austria or Italy. In the last years, there was a lack of gas, so the state made some imo stupid things … F.ex, cars with odd number plates could drive and fill gas only on odd days, and cars with even numbers on the plates only on even days. ;D Towards the end also the inflation was pretty strong. You had like 1.000.000 dinar bills and so.

    Others may tell you more, also negative about Yugoslavia and other commy countries.

    #423515

    Anonymous

    I would add that we had free education, free healthcare, no jobless, 3 weeks summer holidays at the sea coast(!), no homeless people, no criminality, no begging on the streets, everyone was owner of their flat/house, we had a working infrastructure and industry, etc. Sounds like paradise, heh?

    #423516

    Anonymous
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    I would add that we had free education, free healthcare, no jobless, 3 weeks summer holidays at the sea coast(!), no homeless people, no criminality, no begging on the streets, everyone was owner of their flat/house, we had a working infrastructure and industry, etc. Sounds like paradise, heh?

    That is new to me … You could also live in a state owned flat or otherwise, so that you were paying rent and didn't actually own it. Otherwise yes, all that things too.

    #423517

    Anonymous

    In Bulgaria, people used to own their flats (they had to wait for years but that's not the point =P). Now I'm maybe wrong. Even in the 1990-2000s it was really rare to see people renting.

    #423518

    Anonymous

    I was in communism for well 1 year….. :D So i cant speak for it personally. However what i hear from my relatives and family. I wouldn't want communism. :P Basically;

    Only good thing was most ppl but not really everybody as some let you believe here, were employeed. Ofc. there were more employeed in each firm that would be economically rational. Hence economy was suffering burden. There was general lack of many goods, materials, etc. Ppl often point out bananas and coffe but thats not main problem. Basically it was way more than that. Getting things like building material for house could be major pain in the ass.

    There was lots of birocracy. Corruption was, and still is due to legacy of communism, pretty much on all levels of society. You had snitches everywhere which were extorting you. Birocrats doing their best to make your life harder. Lots of lazy ppl, slacking in your firm really was a norm. Thats why still today many ppl love communism. Lazy ppl mostly ofc. :) At end of the day Yugo communism was living off US money so it lived as long as US wanted. Yugo dream started with Tito-Stalin split. Before that you had mostly stuff like communst officers coming in your house uninvited and taking (better said stealing) all your pigs, etc. Literary cutting someones tounge also really wasn't that unusual…. Tounge cutter ofc. usually was awarded with national heroe status. :)

    Thow even with US money its quite clear Yuga sucked mostly. It was far better than othr communist states but still. Thow atm its also quite bad its not to be compared with Yu in no way. The reason we still have bad things is basically legacy of ex-Yu practices which linger on and will linger for quite some time to be. Also differance can be seen watching old photos of your village vs current photos. Huge differance. :)

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    In the US we are taught to fear communism and socialism.

    Well US interpetation of communism is quite hillarious and sometimes extragerated but tbh thats perhaps for the best at least US didnt fall pray to this regime. Thow i must say i am not fan of US system either but still better than communism. Something in the line of German system is most preferable in my opinion but my country will still need lots of time to get there. :)

    #423519

    Anonymous

    My grandma used to say my great grandfather would work and save all his life so he could buy land an a pair of oxen, then the communists came and took that away. There's nothing in the world that they can give me that would make me hate them any less. Except maybe line up and throw themselves off a cilff.

    #423520

    Anonymous

    Why do you guys think all Slavic countries at one point were communist?  It's pretty incredible that this is true for such a large, broad ethnic group.

    Obviously things like Russian dominance come to mind, but on a broader cultural platform, I would love to hear your opinions on what in our history, cultures, lifestyles, religions, economics, and even politics, led this to happen. 

    (I've been meaning to ask this for ages, thanks to kimberly.northman's recent topic for reminding me :) )

    #423521

    Anonymous
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    Why do you guys think all Slavic countries at one point were communist?  It's pretty incredible that this is true for such a large, broad ethnic group.

    Obviously things like Russian dominance come to mind, but on a broader cultural platform, I would love to hear your opinions on what in our history, cultures, lifestyles, religions, economics, and even politics, led this to happen. 

    (I've been meaning to ask this for ages, thanks to kimberly.northman's recent topic for reminding me :) )

    It's pretty simple acctually. In Russia, revolution was helped by Germans (they left Lenin to travell trough their territory, gave him money etc), latter, Soviets were given every country they wished, as their revard for WWII.

    #423522

    Anonymous

    Slavic countries cluster together geographically around the Soviet Union ;D (and not only them)

    #423523

    Anonymous
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    Slavic countries cluster together geographically around the Soviet Union ;D (and not only them)

    Plus DDR, Romania, Hungary and… lol Albania ;D

    #423524

    Anonymous
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    I know that some of you live in places that were formally communist. What was it like? Are your countries better now that your no longer communist?

    All Yugoslav countries are much worse thanks to…
    Privatisations, Shock Therapy, Neoliberalism, Free Market, Free Trade, EU, Nato, US-German Imperialism and their Separatist Puppets, Globalisation, Multinational Corporations, International finance capitalism and debt slavery.

    #423525

    Anonymous
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    Why do you guys think all Slavic countries at one point were communist?  It's pretty incredible that this is true for such a large, broad ethnic group.

    Obviously things like Russian dominance come to mind, but on a broader cultural platform, I would love to hear your opinions on what in our history, cultures, lifestyles, religions, economics, and even politics, led this to happen. 

    (I've been meaning to ask this for ages, thanks to kimberly.northman's recent topic for reminding me :) )

    because of the collective slavic mentality :P :P :P :P

    Just Joking.

    I think that it was a coincidence,that all Slavs were liberated by soviet union (which became communistic mostly by non-slavs, such as lenin, trotsky, stalin etc) and then were forced to be ruled by communistic dictatorships.

    I think that Prague spring and other events show that Slavs really didn't like communism…

    #423526

    Anonymous
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    All Yugoslav countries are much worse thanks to…
    Privatisations, Shock Therapy, Neoliberalism, Free Market, Free Trade, EU, Nato, US-German Imperialism and their Separatist Puppets, Globalisation, Multinational Corporations, International finance capitalism and debt slavery.

    funny how you used capital letters. classic catchphrase brainwashed guy

    #423527

    Anonymous

    Povhec, I'm not all that fond of the US system either. if your talking about capitalism.

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