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  • #347216

    Anonymous

    Hi, the names of the days of the week in all Slavic countries have the same meaning and is connected with Christianity. 
    The meaning in Polish is the same as the meaning in Russian,  Bulgarian, Serbian …
    1.Poniedzialek (Monday) – po niedzieli means “after Sunday” in Polish po niedzieli. Read the article about Easter Monday

    2.Wtorek (Tuesday) – wtory means “the second” in Polish: wtóry or drugi. Read the article about Paczki’s (Pounchki) Day; Delicious Food for Fat Thursday &Tuesday 
    3.Środa (Wednesday) – w środku means “in the middle” (of the week) 
    4.Czwartek (Thursday) – czwarty means “the fourth”, in Polish “czwarty” day of the week 
    5.Piątek (Friday) – piaty means “the fifth”, in Polish “piąty” day of the week. Read the article about Good Friday
    6.Sobota (Saturday) – Sabbath it originates from Jewish Sabbath like Spanish s�bado or Russian subbota
    7.Niedziela (Sunday) – nie dzialać means “do not work” or “not a working day” since Sunday was a day when people did not do any physical work. Read the article about Palm Sunday 
     This uniformity of Slavic weekly days suggests a common Slavic culture or that Christianity has spread among the Slavs from one source, not that Poles have received Christianity from one source and  Bulgarians from other Russians in third and so on. 
    It is known that Bulgarians Serbs and Russians are baptized from east roman empire, but is it true for Poles and Czechs. As i know they are baptized from the Latins in 966.   
    But the names of the Days in Germanic and Latin People are connected with Sun Moon and planets or old gods. 
    Is this means that initially, polish people also received Christianity from east roman empire(Greeks) or from another East European state ?
    #386435

    Anonymous

    West Slavs had contacts with Eastern Roman Empire. Just remember Prince Rastislav of Moravia and his request for missionaries from the East. Cyril and Methodius came to Moravia in 862. Christian missionaries from both “Rome” and “Constantinople” were working among western Slavs for many years before 966. (when Polish ruler accepted Christianity not Polish people) both invited and not.

    #386423

    Anonymous

    I don’t think that Cyril and Methodius adopted the greek week to slavs, bacause Greek days names are
    First Day(
    κυριακή)
    Second Day
    Third Day
    Fourth Day
    Fifth Day
    Sixth Day
    Subbota (το σάββατον) 

    Old Latin – Now used in Portuguese
    Sunday – dies domenica (feria prima)
    Monday- feria secunda
    Thuesday- feria tertia
    Wednesday -feria quarta
    Thursday – feria quinta
    Friday – feria sexta
    Saturday – Sabbatum


    May be long time ago, the slav week had started from Sunday, because Środa (Wednesday)  is the middle of the day between Sunday and Saturday.
    Other difference that is unique, is the name of Poniedzialek (Monday),  which is connected with Niedziela (Sunday). 
    And the other difference from greek and latin week is that day are counted from the day after Sunday . In Latin and Greek day are counted from Sunday. 
    So you see, that the slav day system is unique and is not copied from Greek or Latin. But is not clear who and when invented it. 

    #386421

    Anonymous

    Secular Weekday Name

    Hebrew “Name”

    Hebrew Meaning

    SundayYom ReeshoneFirst day  
    MondayYom ShayneeSecond day
    TuesdayYom Shlee´sheeThird day
    WednesdayYom Revee´eeFourth day
    ThursdayYom Khah´mee´sheeFifth day
    FridayYom Ha´shee´sheeSixth day
    SaturdayShabbatRest

    Slav week is much more closer to Jewish  week- Shabbat meens rest and is like Niedziela (Sunday) – nie dzialać . After rest day the names are 1 2 3 4 5 

    #421385

    Anonymous

    How can the slavic week be closer to the jewish one when greek latin and jewish are equivalent?

    #421383

    Anonymous

    1.Shabbat  means rest – don’t work – like the slav word Niedziela (dont work)
    2.The word Shabbat  is used both  for 7th day and for  week  .
       Slavs use  word Nedelia both for 7th day and for week 

    #421378

    Anonymous

    Except the Sabbath is the 6th day of the week for Slavs. And monday and wednesday are not numeric. And the 1st day is monday. Whereas the latin/greek/hebrew names are fully equivalent. Your clustering is off.

    #421375

    Anonymous

    @hristov I didn’t try to imply that Slavic day names came from Greeks, but that they were influenced by same missions.

    #421364

    Anonymous

    I remember that I was always told that our weekdays names come from our pagan religion. And how we had 6 days in week, so 5 weeks made a month… All Slavs use exactly the same weekday names, only Russian has 1 difference, and that’s Sunday – they call it “воскресенье”, which initially means “resurrection”… it’s a Christian thing… however, they also initially used “неделя” to mean Sunday, although in modern RU it simply means “the week”.

    #421356

    Anonymous

    ааааа, you are right . The greek, latin and hebrew weeks are equivalent. The difference is only that greek and latin weeks have first day that is called gods day, but slav’s Nedelia means the same as Shabbat . It is later change in the name of the week days and there are few possibilities. 
    1. Christians started to celebrate Sunday instead of (Shabbat)Saturday as a day of God from 2 century, may be to differ  from Jews which were disliked in roman empire. 
    2 Officially At the beginning of the fourth century Roman emperor Constantine decided to accept Christianity and trying to unite the country in a religion. Since the majority of his subjects were Gentiles who attach great importance to the worship of the sun on Sunday, Constantine decided to respect their religion for the sake of reunification. This led to the adoption of the world’s first state law on Sunday. To curtsied to the Gentiles, in its decree Constantine called Sunday “respectable” day.

    #421349

    Anonymous

    Yes, to do something “just to differ” is a really common practice in religions…

    For example, in Christianity, in the book “Didache”, chapter VIII, it’s written:
    “Do not fast like hypocrites, for they fast on Mondays and Thursdays, but do you fast on Wednesdays and Fridays.”

    also, “Do not pray like them, thus pray three times a day…”

    Then, in Islam,
    Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: “Act against contrary to the polythesists, trim closely the moustache and grow the beard.”
    – Reported by Ibn Umar (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 500

    then, in the Qur’an, Chapter 2. verse 143, it says:
    We decreed your former qiblah only in order that We might know the Prophet’s true adherents and those who were to disown him. It was indeed a hard test, but not for those whom the God guided.”

    So, many things, in religions were done “just to differ” from the group they didn’t like… it’s a very common practice in all religions. :)

    #421345

    Anonymous

    >For example, in Christianity, in the book “Didache”, chapter VIII, it’s written:
    >”Do not fast like hypocrites, for they fast on Mondays and Thursdays, but do you fast on Wednesdays and Fridays.”

    Can you be more specific? What book is “Didache” in English (a slavic language will do too)?

    P.S:
    Nevermind, I looked it up. It’s a non canonical book which is presumably addressing jewish Christians specifically. In this case making a public distinction between christian Jews and their devil worshipping brethren makes a lot of sense (as their tradition and ritual would otherwise be the indistinguishable). TL;DR context is important when trying to undestand the intent of written speech.

    #421342

    Anonymous
    Another interesting thing  is the Names of the week at Slavs and Germans
    It is very important relationship between the Slavic and German week. The German weekly days generally are all pagan and are created based on the pagan Roman week. So there can be no question that the Slavs in this respect have taken something from the Germans.
    However, between Germans and Slavs there are interfaces. They are medium and Saturday. One of the Germans had started   telling Wodantag  – Mittelwoch = midweek. Obviously, between Slavic and German name is a logical relationship. So now it is important to know the Germans you have taken from their environment or Slavs or Slavs by the Germans. It seems to us that here there can be no dispute about the priority of this word. German not because it adds anything in German, because now not being used at all German peoples, for example. British and others. Northern Germans did not use. It is used only by the southeastern German peoples, i.e. those nations that touch the Slavs. Pas and these nations have said Environment originally Wodanstag instead Mittwoch. Mid no sense in German weekly system because this system is not countable, i.e. not saying the first day, second day, it might say and
    average day. German weekly day bear names of deities, they are: a day of sun, day of the moon, Freya … So midweek at the Germans has no sense, because it can not be said between what  environment. Middle contrary is exclusive of Slavic weekly system because it’s notation. The environment here is the medium between Sunday and Sabbath. Instead say third day named “environment”, i.e. environment between Monday and Tuesday on the one hand and Thursday and Friday of each other. Germans have for Environment name: Wodanstag, which corresponds to their system and environment is added afterward in those German nations that touch the Slavs. It is used from all Slavs and is exclusive only Slavonic system, due this Germans her borrowed from slavs.
    #382501

    Anonymous

    My opinion is that there are many similarities, because we were all initially one culture – Indo-European culture, so, maybe it’s just something we had in common, and not taken from one another. However, this is just my opinion, and I could be wrong. :)

    #352867

    Anonymous

    @hristov it’s not really true. Christians began to celebrate Sunday instead of Saturday  since the time of the apostles. Paul says we met together in the upper room and broke the bread on the first day of the week(the Lord’s day). It was not a tradition from Constantine for the gentiles. That’s a typical secular explanation which isn’t remotely true. Sunday was regarded as the “Lords day” by the apostles because it was the day Jesus was resurrected on. 

    Acts 20:7 

    @Dušan is correct. The days of the week most likely came from st.cyril and Methodius who came and ministered to great Moravia. Their disciples later went back to Bulgaria after the fall of great Moravia and Bulgaria later christianized the Kievan Rus (Eastern slavs). So technically it did come from one source namely from Greece/Bulgaria.

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