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    I will not argue with an obvious religious extremist. Because, let me tell you, you either are 100% into your chosen religion, i.e. you are an extremist, or you aren't a religious guy, because no religion accepts 99%.  ;D

    He is a Serbian Orthodox priest actually.

    #387015

    Anonymous
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    Humm depends on how you look. Apparently it didnt since it was monastic schools that started to re-introduce knowledge. You must know West Roman Empire was in terrible situation foregin tribes were constantly invading it much of knowledge was lost and westeren culture evolved into warrior culture.

    On the other hand Orthodox Byzantines newer lost this knowledge. After Arab conquest of many Byzantine provinces  much of this knowledge came into Muslim hands and so via Cordoba west got back much of that knowledge. However Byzantine role shouldnt be underestimated either for example Crusaders traded with them alot. Another important thing that is less known is that much of knowledge was preserved and even developed by Hiberno-Scottish Christians the members of so called Celtic Christianity.

    Many important theologians as Thomas Aquinas held that science is most important in understanding word created by God so there is this duality in history of Christianity like today. Some were/are extreme puritans while some were/are very enlightened as far as these things goe.

    Its just that old folks believes in witches and other things still clinged ontu the people so such misconceptions arose again in time (even today :D) and reapeared. These things are ofc. are not limited to Christianity they goe for ages way back in time. I personaly view medieval in positive light since it has as many minuses and pluses as pagan era did and from historical point of view it gave birth to our nations, it is a birth time of universities, european expansion and just as many brilliant inventions. I view both pagan and christian era equaly bad and good. It was different era different time both had many disgusting things and many brilliant things and i cheerish this regardless.

    True, because nobody is a true christian. That is imposible, given the fact that christian teachings go against human nature. So, of course classical greek and roman knowledge didn't go completely lost (not to forget the knowledge at Alexandria, burnt by christian extremists), but imagine where would we be now, if there wasn't any christian censorship, over the centuries. For there was a christian censorship, whatever some may say.

    Europe was always a warrior society, not culture. Christianity wanted us to turn… mild. And look at us today. That is the sole influence of christianity. No warriors and almost no culture left.

    Nobody is entirely good, or entirely bad, except for extremist religions, ideologies and dogmas, which are always right.  ;D

    #387016

    Anonymous
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    There was no Europe before Christianity. European identity, European culture, European education, European medicine, European technology, all that have origins in Christianity.

    Pretty much this. 

    #387017

    Anonymous
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    He is a Serbian Orthodox priest actually.

    My best and oldest friend is a Serbian Orthodox priest too.  ;D No problems.

    #387018

    Anonymous

    Is that you on the pic? 😮

    #387019

    Anonymous
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    Pretty much this.

    How come christianity was a j.ewish sect? Jahve is a j.ewish god. Jesus was a j.ew. And a lot of others in that holy book, so many people censored so many times, for their own profit?

    European my ass.

    #387020

    Anonymous
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    Is that you on the pic? 😮

    No. My boyfriend.

    #387021

    Anonymous
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    The pagan society, as we know, didn't differ in their pantheon between 'good and evil', that is solely a Christian philosophical invention.

    That sentence is simply wrong. Please read more about topic. Then we could continue discussion

    #387022

    Anonymous

    Christianity became the dominant religion in many regions of Europe from 4-5th centuries throwing Europe into “Dark Ages”. Dark Ages was a historical period between 5th and 15th century during which economic, cultural and scientific deterioration occurred.  This fact is widely accepted by historians. I can’t think of major inventions or discoveries occurred during the Dark Ages period. What medical advances did Europeans have during that time? Roman Catholics prohibited the dissection of corpuses, for example.
    There were no breaking discoveries in astronomy, physics, and biology. Chemistry existed in the form of alchemy. I can only think of mathematician Leonardo Fibonacci who lived in the 12 th century. He introduced Arabic numerical system in Europe. Probably others introduced it before Fibonacci, he received the recognition  he probably did not deserve, but that’s another story.
    Aristotle, Archimedes, Hippocrates, Herodotus, Euclid and other famous greeks all lived in pre-Christian times. After the fall of Roman  empire followed by the dominance of Christianity shortly after, there were no discoveries, literally nothing happened during that period. It was only in Renaissance (the reborn period) cultural and intellectual movements started in a positive direction. Even then Bruno was burned, Galileo died in house arrest.
    There is little doubt in my mind that Christianity slowed down Europeans for at least 1000 years.

    #387023

    Anonymous
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    That sentence is simply wrong. Please read more about topic. Then we could continue discussion

    The pagan religion, as we know, didn't differ in their pantheon between 'good and evil', that is solely a Christian philosophical invention.

    Greek philosophy, thus also the society as one may assume, differed among numbers of things.

    #387024

    Anonymous
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    How come christianity was a j.ewish sect? Jahve is a j.ewish god. Jesus was a j.ew. And a lot of others in that holy book, so many people censored so many times, for their own profit?

    European my ass.

    Christianity was an unifying force which helped Europeans to rally many times in history. From Arab invasions to Mongol intrusions to Ottoman onslaught, it was the unifying force to which Europeans own their cultural and ethnic continuity.

    Yes it did spread some what violently, just as Islam and ever peaceful Buddhism and Zoroastrianisms did. But pros vs cons are clearly in Christianities favor.

    #387025

    Anonymous
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    That sentence is simply wrong. Please read more about topic. Then we could continue discussion

    European pre-christians (let's call them that) did not share the judeo-christian good vs. evil dichtonomy. Period.

    #387026

    Anonymous
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    No. My boyfriend.

    You are one lucky manb*tch…

    JK the guy on it looks like my dad before he lost his hair ;D

    #387027

    Anonymous
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    Christianity became the dominant religion in many regions of Europe from 4-5th centuries throwing Europe into “Dark Ages”. Dark Ages was a historical period between 5th and 15th century during which economic, cultural and scientific deterioration occurred.  This fact is widely accepted by historians. I can’t think of major inventions or discoveries occurred during the Dark Ages period. What medical advances did Europeans have during that time? Roman Catholics prohibited the dissection of corpuses, for example.
    There were no breaking discoveries in astronomy, physics, and biology. Chemistry existed in the form of alchemy. I can only think of mathematician Leonardo Fibonacci who lived in the 12 th century. He introduced Arabic numerical system in Europe. Probably others introduced it before Fibonacci, he received the recognition  he probably did not deserve, but that’s another story.
    Aristotle, Archimedes, Hippocrates, Herodotus, Euclid and other famous greeks all lived in pre-Christian times. After the fall of Roman  empire followed by the dominance of Christianity shortly after, there were no discoveries, literally nothing happened during that period. It was only in Renaissance (the reborn period) cultural and intellectual movements started in a positive direction. Even then Bruno was burned, Galileo died in house arrest.
    There is little doubt in my mind that Christianity slowed down Europeans for at least 1000 years.

    A witch! A witch! Maybe a warlock! Dunno! Burn him! Burn him! Or her. Burn everything!  ;D

    #387028

    Anonymous
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    Christianity was an unifying force which helped Europeans to rally many times in history. From Arab invasions to Mongol intrusions to Ottoman onslaught, it was the unifying force to which Europeans own their cultural and ethnic continuity.

    Yes it did spread some what violently, just as Islam and ever peaceful Buddhism and Zoroastrianisms did. But pros vs cons are clearly in Christianities favor.

    You think so? Where in the Bible is written than people should unite against their enemies and slaughter them if possible?  ;D That was the european nature, judeo-christianity want to destroy so much. Why? To control and thus rule us. Not gonna happen.

    Thous shall not kill… and all the rest. Violence not included. Hypocrisy detected. Case closed.

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