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  • #342349

    Anonymous

    List of west Slavic tribes:

    West Slavs

        * Goplans, ancestors of Poles
        * Hevelli, ancestors of Germans
        * Lendians, ancestors of Poles
        * Lugii (Slavo-Germanic)
        * Milceni, ancestors of both Germans and Sorbs
        * Mazurs, ancestors of both Poles and Germans
        * Obotrites, ancestors of both Germans and Sorbs
        * Pomeranians, ancestors of Germans
        * Polabians, ancestors of Germans

        * Polans (western), ancestors of Poles
      * Pyritzans, ancestors of Germans
        * Rani, ancestors of Germans

        * Slovenes, same as Slovaks during the early Middle Ages
        * Ślężanie, ancestors of Poles
        * Sorbs same as White Serbs
      * Veleti, ancestors of Germans
        * Vistulans, ancestors of Poles
        * Volinians, same as Volhynians, ancestors of Ukrainians
        * Warmiak, ancestors of Poles
        * Wends, ancestors of Poles
        * White Croats, ancestors of Ukrainians
        * White Serbs, same with Severians, ancestors of Serbs and Sorbs

    List of the place names in contemporary Germany and their original Slavic names.

    GERMAN


    SORBIAN

    Altenburg


    Starohrod

    Bad Doberan


    Doberan

    Berlin


    Barliń

    Bautzen


    Budyśyn

    Bergen auf Rügen


    Gora

    Brandenburg


    Branibor

    Calau


    Kalawa

    Cottbus


    Chóśebuѕ

    Dargun


    Dargun

    Deberlug


    Dobrylug

    Demmin


    Dymin

    Dresden


    Drjeѕdјany

    Elbe river


    Łobjo

    Erfurt


    Jarobrod

    Fürstenberg


    Tornow

    Groitzsch


    Grodјiśko

    Havel river


    Hobola

    Havelsberg


    Hobolin

    Jahna


    Gana (historical)

    Küpenick


    Kopjenik

    Lebus


    Lubuś

    Leipzig


    Lipsk

    Leitzkau


    Leska

    Lübeck


    Lubice

    Magdeburg


    Dźěwin

    Mersenburg


    Mjezybor

    Meissen


    Miśno

    Mulde river


    Módła

    Naumburg


    Namgrad

    Oder river


    Wodra

    Oldenburg


    Starigrad

    Peene river


    Piana

    Platkow


    Bіoto

    Prignitz


    Przegnica

    Rethra


    Radegosz (historical)

    Ratzeburg


    Ratibor

    Rochlitz


    Rochelice

    Rostock


    Roztok

    Rügen


    Rujany

    Saale river


    Solawa

    Schwerin


    Swaryс

    Stolp


    Słupsk (in Poland)

    Usedom


    Uznom

    Werben


    Wjerbno

    Wismar


    Wyśomir

    Zwickau


    Świkawa

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    R1a Haplogroup:
    (not a crucial prove, but does say a lot)
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    #366082

    Anonymous

    Pentaz i think east Germans and south-east Austrians are 50%-60% slavic. Just look at their nicknames, culture, tradition, costumes etc. I think language is only thing that makes them German everything else is pure slavic.

    #366083

    Anonymous

    the same logic can use to say that Russians are ugrofins
    look at geography names around Moscow and Moscow particulary

    #366084

    Anonymous

    There’s no doubt about it. Russians themselves are a mixture of a lot of things when we’re at it, no one said they’re 100% Slavic or something thus that is no surprise. Most ethnically preserved Slavic grouping are the western Slavs…and they haven’t been affected by Germanics but vice versa western Slavs affected much of the present day Germanic ethnic composition as we can see.

    Yeah, practically whole Eastern Germany is Slavic basically, from geography marks to city names even to genetics of people.

    #366085

    Anonymous

    Germanics often say Slavs are only a linguistic group… the same can be said for Germanics.

    #366086

    Anonymous

    I agree. Germans are very diverse, they have Germanic, Celtic, Slavic and even Roman influences.

    #366087

    Anonymous

    I was born and raised in a city divided in two one part in Germany and the other in Poland, so I  understand your points here. Valid points. To me interesting thing will be, as the Wends learn that they are not genetically German but Slavic how will that affect their perception of identity. There maybe a revival of Slavic culture there or maybe not, time will tell. Sure as heck we are living in interesting times.  :D

    #366088

    Anonymous

    What makes the German go absolutely nuts is that their nation is actually a fairly large hodgepodge of various groups. Germans have been good administrators for quite sometime, so they were able to put them all together in one federal nation. However, the differences don't go away and with the Western decadent model of society, it will be interesting to see what happens next. I think each side will be inclined to try and assert itself and thus threaten any previously perceived great national unity. Surely, the NPD-types will go apeshit when nations with greater ethnic unity, such as the Western Slavic nations, start to matter more on the European, and even world, stage.

    The differences between Cologne German and Bavarian German and Hochdeutsch (the official version of German) are quite substantial. And this is just languages that we're talking about. Germany is like a smaller China – all under one general umbrella of "German" like the Chinese are "Chinese" but China has over 55 ethnic groups. Germany has less, but still more than they'd like to admit.

    #366089

    Anonymous

    The differences between Cologne German and Bavarian German and Hochdeutsch (the official version of German) are quite substantial. And this is just languages that we’re talking about. Germany is like a smaller China – all under one general umbrella of “German” like the Chinese are “Chinese” but China has over 55 ethnic groups. Germany has less, but still more than they’d like to admit.

    Only the centralists are happy with what is happening, I would prefer to live in a loose federation. Thanks to Jacobin-style politics, Standard German was enforced, the native languages, dialects and regional customs actually die. (The first thing Hitler die, whe he came to power, was to destroy the German federation and introduction of an even stronger centralism than Weimar Republic had…). It is sad we South Germans whored ourselves to Prussia, now we pay the prize for supporting their imperialist wars. (on the other hand, Switzerland also gets destroyed by multiculturalism).

    #366095

    Anonymous

    According to Joseph Arthur de Gobineau, the father of modern racial demography, are the people of todays Germany "a mixture of Celts and Slavs". [size=6pt](Ref. Hans Fenske: Politisches Denken im Zwanzigstem Jahrhundert, in: Joachim Lieber(Hrsg.): Politische Theorien von der Antike bis zur Gegenwart, Bonn 1991, S. 803)[/size]

    Hitler and Nazism borrowed much of Gobineau's ideology, though Gobineau himself was not anti-Semitic, and may even be characterised as philo-Semitic. Gobineau wrote positively about the Jews, including the long eulogy to the Jews in his Essai sur l'inégalité des races, describing them as "a strong, a free, an intelligent people". When the Nazis adopted Gobineau's theories, they were forced to edit his work extensively to make it conform to their views, much as they did in the case of Nietzsche.

    #366096

    Anonymous

    The German Anthem "Deutschlandlied" is actually an old Croatian folk song "Vjutro se ja rad vustanem" from northern Croatia (Medjimurje), that Joseph Haydn took as a melody for his work.

    German National Anthem (Deutschland Lied)
    Žiga Međimurski – V jutro se ja rad vustanem, ravno pred zorju

    #366097

    Anonymous

    This really isn't new stuff.

    Every single child know the whole eastern germany (modern germany/Nemacka) was slavic lands inhabited by slavs. Check up on Niklot, the progenitor of the house of Mecklenburg for example.

    #366098

    Anonymous

    Those people who wish to create trouble between the Germanic and Slavic people tend to be either to put it mildly not the sharpest tools in the shed or agitators who have an interest in seeing a conflict between these two groups take place.
    May no Slavic and Germanic nation ever have to go to war with each other.

    #366099

    Anonymous

    This. Imagine our tribes setting our differences. None would have anything on us. Maybe Japanese. Otherwise, Slavic and Germanic tribes have had more influence on this world we live in terms of culture, language and just shear influence than us. My apologies, Romanic tribes are equal to us historically, but now are failures in modern terms.

    #366100

    Anonymous

    There are spreading on the internet new theories claiming that there was nothing like "german" in the age of the fall of Roman Empire in the ancient times . They claim that Germans was just one of the many ancient slavic tribes. And the whole thing around so called "grand migration of the nations" is pure nonsens.

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    Comparassion of the word "German" in slavic and german languages.

    We didn´t come here from swamps in Ukraine as we learn in the school nowadays. We have been always here. You can see it on the names of cities, rivers and hills. Even such city as italian Venice(Italian: Venezia, German Venegig ),adj. Venetian refers to slavic origin. Slavs – Venets. Grand Moravia in early Middle ages bordered with Frankish Empire. There was nothing like Germany at that time.

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    I think that todays Germans are offspring of Franks or Normans, but in the ancient times they were Slavs.

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