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    В России занялись разработкой законопроекта о миграционной амнистии. Документ готовит фонд «Миграция XXI век», через полгода он должен быть представлен правительству РФ. Ожидается, что под амнистию попадут трудовые мигранты. Со своей стороны, авторы законопроекта надеются, что гражданство получат все, кто давно живет в России и желает этого.

    По оценкам Федеральной миграционной службы, в России проживает примерно 5 миллионов нелегальных трудовых мигрантов. По информации независимых экспертов, их количество в два раза больше, если судить по объему денежных переводов из России в страны-доноры рабочей силы.

    Во многих странах эту проблему уже решают при помощи миграционной амнистии: мигрант с просроченными документами, но не имеющий иных нарушений может в определенное время добровольно «сдаться» властям и получить легальный статус, пишет сегодня «Российская газета».

    Вице-президент фонда «Миграция XXI век» Наталия Власова объяснила, что с 1980 по 2005 год в мире было проведено более 25 таких акций и 6 млн иностранных работников обрели легальный статус. В нашей стране миграционная амнистия готовилась в 2005 — 2006 годах, но так и не состоялась. Благодаря либерализации закона «О правовом положении иностранных граждан в Российской Федерации» и введению большой квоты на иностранную рабочую силу в 2007 году более 2,2 млн человек получили разрешение на работу.

    Но после кризиса квоту резко сократили, и количество нелегалов сразу выросло. По мнению представителя бюро Международной организации труда в Москве Натальи Хофманн, ФМС России и Минздравсоцразвития уже созрели для обсуждения этого вопроса. Однако нужно в первую очередь изменить миграционное законодательство. Иначе, получив амнистию сегодня, завтра люди вновь станут нарушителями закона.

    Что именно надо изменить, разработчики из фонда «Миграция XXI век» сформулируют в своем проекте. Уже ясно, что нужно разобраться с ответственностью работодателей. Сегодня Кодекс об административных правонарушениях предполагает штраф за каждого нелегала до 800 тыс. руб.

    Наталья Хофманн уверена, что, прежде всего, необходимо усилить действия полиции и пограничной службы против нелегалов. Потом — повысить контроль за рынком труда. Затем — провести политику интеграции для легальных мигрантов. И в завершение — сотрудничать со странами их происхождения, приема и транзита.

    Source:http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2012/05/03/climate/562949983731320

    In fact there're about 10 million of illegal migrants in Russia. I guess, they will get the citizenship soon  :D

    #380505

    Anonymous
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    In fact there're about 10 million of illegal migrants in Russia. I guess, they will get the citizenship soon  :D

    Probably. Russia's population figures are quite bad. Slavic numbers are going down, while migrant numbers are going up. Russia is a huge with a ton of industry and thus needs a big population to function and due to the gap, immigrants are being accepted at a huge rate. They'll start cranking out babies with anything that moves in no time… ugh.

    #380506

    Anonymous

    Welcome back, Husarz :)

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    Probably. Russia's population figures are quite bad. Slavic numbers are going down, while migrant numbers are going up. Russia is a huge with a ton of industry and thus needs a big population to function and due to the gap, immigrants are being accepted at a huge rate. They'll start cranking out babies with anything that moves in no time… ugh.

    Maybe it's not very famous fact for foreigners that in the last 20 years we have lost most of the industry, remaining production is not loaded at full capacity, so we don't need any migrants for this target at all. I only know one case when nobody among native Slavic people wanted to work in mining company, the work in such heavy conditions is equivalent to suicide, therefore the state brought c****s.

    The vast majority of migrants employed in the trade, private business for resale of goods or temporary dirty work. On the really hard work is mainly engaged Russian people, migrants prefer the trade or crime than a hard work. If we talk about high-tech industries, most migrants are not suitable for this purpose.

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    #380508

    Anonymous
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    The vast majority of migrants employed in the trade, private business for resale of goods or temporary dirty work. On the really hard work is mainly engaged Russian people, migrants prefer the trade or crime than a hard work. If we talk about high-tech industries, most migrants are not suitable for this purpose.

    The problem with immigration of this type is that its worst effects are not seen overnight, but 1 or 2 generations later. Today, some random Central Asian immigrates to Russia, he doesn't speak Russian, can't read Russian but he can have kids. Either by knocking up Russian women or with a woman from his country. I am not sure about laws concerning Russian nationality, but in the US, if you are born there, you are a citizen, even if you parents are illegal immigrants. This demographic chaos and cultural Marxism is slow festering process, but it begins with these migrants. Their kids will speak Russian, having grown up there, and thus will be closer to those more high-tech jobs. I find many people totally lethargic to their own national cultures and this is all a reflection of Anglo-American multi-culti.

    In the Far East, Japan and Korea, there is little mixing of this type, but most of the preventions are passive  and not some authoritarian laws. People simply value and live their lives very conscious and proud of their culture. Such a strong sense of pride cannot be easily toppled. Immigrants don't flood in, since while there are controls, most of things that need to be done in these countries are done ably and effectively by their native populations.

    #380509

    Anonymous

    Enoch Powell was the only person in the West who said you shouldn't allow single men to emmigrate to your country. 

    I've seen a lot of harm come from both international and internal migration.  Internal migration in my country means a lot of rural locations and small towns are full with young unmarried women, because all the men went to the cities.  In the cities, there are already too many men and this is only complicated and compounded with international migration adding in foreign men.  I know a lot of women who plainly only like white guys, so often these darker men are sexually frustrated and turn to devious means (including rape) to get sex.  Add in increased living expenses (bubbles from migrants with money to spend) and it's pretty clear why the birth demographic plummeted.

    Since the 1980s, they've been predicting that Japan will collapse.  They've been pushing the same crap on Belarus and a number of countries.  Countries who refuse to Kowtow to the Rothschild and the immigration lobby are purposely ridiculed in our media.

    If Japan doesn't bring in immigrants, all the media in the next generation or two will be pointing at the Japan Miracle.  Look at the Japanese who maintained high wages, have very affordable housing (old people drop off and boom a lot of available real estate), travel all over the world (they already do this right now) and live the best lifestyle on the planet.  The Japanese will still survive.  Why?  Because there are ways to make money, other then a f*cking Real Estate bubble nonsense that became the rage in the 1970s (as international immigration lobby took control).

    Meanwhile, the West and several Eastern countries like Russia is continuing to be packed in like a cans of Sardines.. with the result being a decrease in lifestyle for ordinary inhabitants.

    #380510

    Anonymous
    #380511

    Anonymous

    Something to look forward to.

    #380512

    Anonymous

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    "It is unlikely that there are honest research on the subject of how much we need immigrants", – the "Komsomolskaya Pravda", the former press spokesman of the Federal Migration Service Konstantin Poltoranin, who was fired last year for publicly expressed words that the white race is endangered and must be protected. This "racism" in the current senior rank of the Russian authorities was not forgiven by FMS. Although, as it turns out now that the immediate cause of the resignation Poltoranin was his refusal to follow the current intra-agency ethics of migration. But this – a little later. And now it is better to continue a monologue of Poltoranin, what caused in Russia in recent years the appearance of hordes of migrant workers.

    "For all time of my working in the migration service, I have never seen a serious scientific work, which would determine how much we need workers. Every decision was spontaneous. The same things in other agencies responsible for employment, "- he said

    "There are about five departments, which must deal with migration. The number of 10 million of "needed a country of migrants"  – this is nonsense. We do not need  even the number of migrants, which is now. There is already an unmanaged process, and we are long gone "line of no return." Our country has their own citizens in many areas who can not find a job: every workplace is occupied by migrants, "- said Poltoranin ..

    "Now we have in Russia, about 7-8 million foreigners are constantly working, it is a statistic of the FMS. And plus another 10 million, there will come to 18 million migrant workers! We will have overtook the number of migrants in the U.S. with a population twice as large and with their developed economy! "- Warns former head of the press service of the FMS.

    "There is a displacement of the indigenous ethnic group – he continues. – Conditions are such that most of  jobs existed during the Soviet era, have been destroyed … A vivid example – with the former Yakovlev aircraft factory in Saratov: in its place is now a ditch for the future shopping center. Here you have jobs. Where are all those local workers today? How many people worked there, created those planes? "

    By estimates of the ex-head of the press service of the FMS, migrants who came to Russia to work here, transferred to their homeland officially about $ 15 billion a year. "But in fact, by my count – said Poltoranin – this figure comes to $ 50 billion and this does not include Chinese citizens who have about $ 30 billion a year transferred from Russia to their country by their own, separated channels, through Chinese banks that operate here, but check them extremely difficult. Not everyone knows what they have tremendous momentum. The UN estimates that migrant workers around the world transfer to home $ 400 billion, of which approximately $ 50 billion leaked out of Russia. That is my assumption it is supported by these data of the UN. But the money could get our citizens. This is – a huge sum, for example, it is in three times more than is spent annually on upgrading the Russian army. We sponsor the economy of the neighbors, without receiving any economic or political benefits. They do not have in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan the social programs, spending money to create jobs. Their policy – send excess population in Russia. And all this protest mass exist not in their countries. Unskilled labor, which did not really studied in the school."

    "We went from the post-Soviet space very easily – like Poltoranin. – We have thrown everything that we could throw. Threw our Russian ethnos, the Slavic culture. And they were replaced. Now the indigenous citizens of these countries come here to us. Imagine the mentality of people who throws in the slogan "suitcase – train station – Russia": what are they now bring with them when they come to Russia? You expect them to integrate and respect for our culture? .. We threw the Russian language there in the countries of their origin. I have been to  Central Asia, the situation looked. In Kyrgyzstan – more or less stable. In Tajikistan were created only a few colleges, two lessons a week of the Russian language …  They don't need Russian language, it's uninteresting for them. They are cooked in their own juice and live in Russia in enclaves. Language does not interest them. They are not interested in any integration into our society at all. From the graduates of this college with "the teaching of Russian language," our ministry hardly scored 10 people who somehow spoke in Russian. We brought them to Russia to the special facility, as an example of a civilized migration. In the end, after checking out of ten, six were suffering from dangerous contagious diseases, including AIDS … "

    "Furthermore, – continues Poltoranin – how their rulers behave in the negotiations, you would have seen! We must pay tribute to their managers, who come here and give us the stringent conditions for their citizens. We, by contrast, are not talking about those Russians who found themselves outside Russia. As if they wouldn't exist. There is no such problem. "

    "But our officials, bankers – are also natives of Russia – were trying to question the reporter. – or they just do not see?"  "The Pokrovka (government village) has the VIP-office, where officials draw up travel documents, – answers Poltoranin. – I watched their passports. Many have a mark on the exit and entry, but there's no visa. So, either they have a passport of a foreign state or residence abroad … Here's the way of thinking of our rulers. They have already identified their place of residence. And any conflicts they have insanely afraid. They're against of any manifestations of few hundred or a thousand people on Manezh and Triumfalnaya squares. Now imagine those migrants who flooded the city. They took all the utilities, basements, basement, caravans. Millions of them! And do not think it's – people are weak: they're closely related to each other by ethnic groups. They can be quickly integrated and be programmed for any actions … There is a recognized barrier, the ratio of alien to the indigenous ethnic group of people, after that ethnic clashes start – is 10% of visitors. In our large cities, this barrier is exceeded. "

    The prolongation of interview can be read herehttp://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2012/06/06/sotsialnye-problemy-v-rossii/protsess-navodneniya-rossii-migrantami-proshel-toch

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