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    The Geek word Polis for city sounds like it is related to the Slavic word for field/plain 'Polje'.
    They could be related from ancient times.

    #426379

    Anonymous

    In Greek it means 'city state' and is from proto-indo-european.

    #426380

    Anonymous

    The original meaning of the Greek word "polis" was that of the later acropolis,that is "lofty stronghold ~ fort on a rock".

    The root of Greek polis is IE *pel(i)s="rock" and the same root gave pella = "rock" and a number of mountain names like Pelion, Pallene, Pellene and a number of cities named "Pella" the most famous being the Macedonian capital.

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    #426381

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    The Geek word Polis for city sounds like it is related to the Slavic word for field/plain 'Polje'.
    They could be related from ancient times.

    M Bison: Of Course!

    #426382

    Anonymous

    one of the words used to describe the city/town was the more original "indoeuropean" originated word  "asty" (which looks similar to city)

    as for polis, as ventura correctly said, the word was related to the rock.

    #426383

    Anonymous

    According to my sources, Slavic polje and Greek πόλις (polis) are not related. See:
    Source for the Greek word

    For the Slavic, from the "Etymological Dictionary of the Slavic Inherited Lexicon" by Rick Derksen
    [img width=700 height=187]http://i.imgur.com/7TBcjyT.png” />

    PIE forms of both words are already different enough.

    #426384

    Anonymous
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    The Geek word Polis for city sounds like it is related to the Slavic word for field/plain 'Polje'.
    They could be related from ancient times.

    I've made similar notice but to Polish word "Opole" which describes something we could call a city. Well its a city but quite small (or maybe I have too modern perspective). Opole was a first serious attempt of Poles to unify into bigger societies.

    #426385

    Anonymous
    Quote:
    According to my sources, Slavic polje and Greek πόλις (polis) are not related. See:
    Source for the Greek word

    For the Slavic, from the "Etymological Dictionary of the Slavic Inherited Lexicon" by Rick Derksen
    [img width=700 height=187]http://i.imgur.com/7TBcjyT.png” />

    PIE forms of both words are already different enough.

    Thanks Gvezdoslav !!!

    how didn't I think about it ???

    Of course english field is related to polje.

    According to Grimm's law:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimm's_law

    Germanic turned PIE *p,t,k>f,th,h

    So field corresponds to polje just as friend corresponds to prijatelj.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Proto-Indo-European/pelh%E2%82%82-#Proto-Indo-European

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Proto-Slavic/prijatelj%D1%8C#Proto-Slavic
    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Proto-Slavic/prijati#Proto-Slavic

    #426386

    Anonymous
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    The Geek word Polis for city sounds like it is related to the Slavic word for field/plain 'Polje'.
    They could be related from ancient times.

    In my opinion there is connection within ancient-greek word "Polis" and english word "Palisade" (stakewall, stockade, paling). In polish this mean "palisada" (polish "palik" is a stake, a pale). This word also exist in other languages: deutsch (palisadenzaun), cesky (palisáda), french (palissade), spanish (empalizada), russian (палисад – palisad), etc.

    So why "Polis" mean "Palisade"? The first towns 1000-2000 BC were separated by walls with wooden stakes. Polis mean something separated.

    It is similar situation to word "gród" in polish language. "Gród" mean old city, a castle. But this word have origin in word "ogrodzenie" (fence, wall), or "grodzić" (to separate, to isolate).

    In this way, word "polis" for ancient greeks maybe had to become a word to describe a town (separated with palisade – it can be an old IE word/root), similar like "gród" to old slovian people.

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