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  • #411288

    Anonymous

    I find a good way to reconcile it is to not over-think, and be open to other things.  I know this might not be popular with very devout Christians, but I personally have managed to reconcile Christianity with Slavic and other pagan traditions.

    I believe that religion is a mystery, the Orthodox Church says the sacraments are as much.  As such, if you wish, you can choose to view Slavic deities through the eye of Christianity, or Slavic heritage through that viewpoint. 

    I would suggest reading up on the old slavic gods and also try to research into Orthodox and Catholic saints of Slavic origin.  Find ways that various religious holidays are celebrated by Slavs that varies from the rest of Christianity.  That should give you some sense of how and why Slavic heritage fits into Christianity.

    #411289

    Anonymous

    I agree that there are a lot of similarities.

    #411290

    Anonymous

    Slavic heritage and Christianity has been merged for the last few centuries.

    #411291

    Anonymous
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    Slavic heritage and Christianity has been merged for the last few centuries.

    Just clicked here to write same thing you wrote. I will just add one word … unfortunatly.

    #411292

    Anonymous
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    Just clicked here to write same thing you wrote. I will just add one word … unfortunatly.

    Hahaha! I was just about to write the same thing :)

    #411293

    Anonymous
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    Just clicked here to write same thing you wrote. I will just add one word … unfortunatly.

    Well most people nowdays are either agnostic, atheist, deist or cultural christians, etc.

    #411294

    Anonymous

    Depends. The greatest Slavic Christiniaty if you can call it that from my perspective were considered heresies like Bogimilism etc. But also there was the Protestant movement in Slavic lands that went directly to the people and their vernacular speech.

    #411295

    Anonymous

    Being Slav has nothing at all to do with being Christian or vice versa. Abrahamic religions have a Jw*sh root grounded in Jwsh folklore written by Jwsh scribes. During the time of Jesus our people were in their homeland with no idea about this quasi mythical Jwish savior prophet. We were worshiping our own gods derived from our own stories and legends. Christianity and Slavdom have different origins. They are compatible due to the majority of Slavs being Christians today but one does not really have to be a Christian to be a proud Slav or proud member of a Slavic nation. My own people give me problems about this sometimes because I am not a Christian or member of any faith. Croats in general can be very unfriendly to other Croats who do not confess the main faith though this is still rare for me and most people ( that I know at least) always respect me and vice versa.

    #411296

    Anonymous
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    Abrahamic religions all worship the same god. That is; the one of the ***ish people.

    No. The ***s are devil worshippers and ***** is just arab paganism gone monotheist.

    Every culture has their own set of gods, or just one, as it is in this case. They are not talking about the same deity.
    Many deities were just personifications of nature, as it was for many cultures throughout Europe. I don't think they would have worshipped these gods, but rather highly respected them. But that's beside the point.

    Although Abrahamic religions have been accepted as the "main three", it was not always so.
    There is a great diversity of deities and cultures.
    Why should everybody follow the Hebrew one?

    Because he's a Hebrew?

    It's foreign, and does not mean anything to most of us on an ancestral level.

    You mean your immediate ancestors back for 30 generations or more were morons, worshiping foreign gods, but you're enlightened and therefore try to return to something which "might have been" a thousand years ago? Or are you just a hippie who goes for the novel and the exotic, except not honest enough to admit it?

    When you say "most religions", you do not actually mean MOST religions, but rather the main three that have been forced upon us.

    Odds are neither has been forced on you, so using "us" is not a little presumptuous. If you mean they must have been forced on your ancestors long long ago, then the mere fact that you exist means your ancestors either couldn't care less, or were the ones doing the forcing.

    The other 20 or so "major religions", and dozens of smaller ones, are not related in any way shape or form to the main three, apart from the branches of Satanism, but those are still in essence Abrahamic.

    Satanism is defintely "abrahamic", LaVey's real name was actually Levi. "Abrahamic" otoh, is defined as any of Judaism, Christianity, *****.
    The one thing they have in common is that they're all "abrahamic"  ::)

    #411297

    Anonymous
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    No. The ***s are devil worshippers and ***** is just arab paganism gone monotheist.

    Because he's a Hebrew?

    You mean your immediate ancestors back for 30 generations or more were morons, worshiping foreign gods, but you're enlightened and therefore try to return to something which "might have been" a thousand years ago? Or are you just a hippie who goes for the novel and the exotic, except not honest enough to admit it?

    Odds are neither has been forced on you, so using "us" is not a little presumptuous. If you mean they must have been forced on your ancestors long long ago, then the mere fact that you exist means your ancestors either couldn't care less, or were the ones doing the forcing.

    Satanism is defintely "abrahamic", LaVey's real name was actually Levi. "Abrahamic" otoh, is defined as any of Judaism, Christianity, *****.
    The one thing they have in common is that they're all "abrahamic"  ::)

    What the hell are you talking about?
    I don't even know how to reply.

    You just repeated some of what I said, added some junk that doesn't have anything to do with anything and doesn't make sense.

    Only your 3rd and 4th points are worth replying to.
    -My immediate ancestors didn't actively worship any kind of religion. It's safe to say that most people living in that area about 5 or so generations back didn't know anything about Christianity, they just knew the name. My own grandfather knows very little about it, (just like the majority of Serbs), but he still calls himself Serbian Orthodox.
    It's also safe to say that going even further back, the majority of people living in villages (i.e, most people), only said they were 'Christian' when in reality they were polytheists.
    -I'm agnostic. I accept that there may very well be all sorts of deities and other strange things.
    Why should I follow everybody else and be christian? It means absolutely nothing to me, and it sure as hell didn't mean anything to ANY of my ancestors.
    You're a fool if you think ancient Slavs gave a **** about some carpenter, or what he said.

    Us= human race.
    I don't understand what at all you mean by your point about me existing.

    #411298

    Anonymous
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    What the hell are you talking about?
    I don't even know how to reply. You just repeated some of what I said, added some junk that doesn't have anything to do with anything and doesn't make sense.

    You're full of it and don't even realize it. Whether it's because you refuse to, or are incapable is unimportant.

    Only your 3rd and 4th points are worth replying to.
    -My immediate ancestors didn't actively worship any kind of religion. It's safe to say that most people living in that area about 5 or so generations back didn't know anything about Christianity, they just knew the name. My own grandfather knows very little about it, (just like the majority of Serbs), but he still calls himself Serbian Orthodox.
    It's also safe to say that going even further back, the majority of people living in villages (i.e, most people), only said they were 'Christian' when in reality they were polytheists.

    Sure they were, because a 21st century hippy who doesn't believe in anything says so.

    -I'm agnostic. I accept that there may very well be all sorts of deities and other strange things.

    Just as long as they're not those of your ancestors you mean? Because they didn't know what they believed in and you do?

    Why should I follow everybody else and be christian? It means absolutely nothing to me,

    I bet it does mean something to you – you obviously hate Christianity.

    and it sure as hell didn't mean anything to ANY of my ancestors.

    You're an arrogant and presumptuous know-it-all.

    You're a fool if you think ancient Slavs gave a **** about some carpenter, or what he said.

    See above.

    Us= human race.

    So, if those three religions have been "forced" on the "human race" (which is nonsense all by itself, Judaism, for starters, is non-proselytizing), who was doing the "forcing"? Ze Germans?

    I don't understand what at all you mean by your point about me existing.

    If your ancestors had been opposed to Christianity you would not be here, as, according to the whiny neo-pagan-wannabees-of-teh-internets the eeebul Christians would've slaughtered them.

    #411299

    Anonymous

    Monotheism and Christianity, Islam, Communism(Semitic socialism) etc destroyed the real Indo-European culture and the Old Europe. The Slavic people were among the last victims.

    #411300

    Anonymous
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    Monotheism and Christianity, *****, Communism(Semitic socialism) etc destroyed the real Indo-European culture and the Old Europe. The Slavic people were among the last victims.

    Any sort of argumentation?

    #411301

    Anonymous
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    Slavic heritage and Christianity has been merged for the last few centuries.

    This. It's been merged ever since Old Bulgarian was accepted as a biblical language.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Bulgarian

    #411302

    Anonymous

    Well I know in Macedonia for Slavic, Vlach peoples etc Christianity meant assimilation and also cultural destruction(Exarchate/Patriarchate). Thats a good example.

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