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  • #347214

    Anonymous

    This website states “Perunika” was “Perun’s wife, goddess of lightning, weddings, motherhood, and protector of marriage and justice on earth.” it also claims she is the same person as Ognjena Marija (Fiery Mary).
    Since this website has no reference list or bibliography, and I struggled finding any other mention of this, I am starting to think someone’s making up bullsh*t stories.
    It also states other names she went by were: “
    Perunika (PERUNKA, PER(K)UNOVA, PERENA, L(J)EL(J)UJA, LJELJA, GORKA, VERONIKA, OGNJENA MARIJA)”
    (I’m interested in this hence my name “Veronika”, which I was under the impression is Slavic spelling of a Hebrew name)

    Does anyone have any credible sources to prove this?
    I understand Perunika is Croatian for the Iris flower – how is it relevant to Perun?

    I’m starting to find Slavic mythology is a real pain in the butt to research online…  
    Here is the website mentioned: http://www.leluya.org/mythology/Perunika.php

    #386587

    Anonymous

    Veronica is latin.

    #386588

    Anonymous

    That doesn’t really answer my question. 

    #386581

    Anonymous

    Went through that site. It is pile of bulls… digestive results.

    #386583

    Anonymous

    Thanks Goryvlad. I was starting to think that.

    #386576

    Anonymous

    You are welcome.

    Regarding the Veronika name, why do you think it is Hebrew?
    For me it seems to be western-slavic or germanic transcription of greek φέρω νίκη – Phero niké – Victory bringer or bearer.

    #386567

    Anonymous

    @Goryvlad, you are right. I think the information I had about my name was outdated and Christian – where God forbid, a Hebrew saints name dates back prior to Christianity.
    I looked into it yesterday. Pheronike is Greek for “bringer of victory”, which then was translated as “Veronica” into Latin, which then the Slavs changed the ‘c’ to a ‘k’ to suit their spelling.   

    #386489

    Anonymous

    There wasn’t any diety named Perunika. But that is the name of flower in Croatia. And it is actually a national flower…

    #386446

    Anonymous

    Perunika is a flower here as well, btw.
    As for the deity, could “Perunika” be regarded as a… feminization of her husband’s name? In my language, at least in archaic times and/or context, women could be called with their husband’s name instead of their own – f.e. the wife of our Tsar Smilets was simply called Smiltsena, the wife of a Blago could be called Blagovitsa, so in the same way the wife of Perun (especially if people don’t know her own name) could be called something like Perunitsa. Still nothing to do with the one from that site though (which isn’t surprising – our mythology is still being developed/invented).

    #421382

    Anonymous

    Also, our Perunika is way better than inferior croatian specimens.

    #359587
    Boris V.
    Boris V.
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    @Veronika89 i have heard that it is connected similar myth

    #446802

    Anonymous

    Of course there is a goddess for every god in the Slavic and Balkan traditions, what one cannot remember in their soul when it comes to woman’s story, does not mean it did not exist at one time. “Knowledge becomes evil if the aim be not virtuous.” Plato

    #446823

    Anonymous

    Goddess was converted in archaic times but still carried the meaning of giver of life. She then devolved in Mother from Goddess. When you see Mother of Thunder, it refers to creator of thunder or thunder itself. From Wikipedia: Perkuna-tete or Perkunatele in Baltic mythology the Thunder Goddess Mother, in Slavic mythology she referred to as Percunatele mother of Perun, which is probably derived from the Balts. Like many such goddesses absorbed into Christianity, she is, today, the Christian Madonna, Mary, one of whose epithets was Panna Maria Percunatele. She was originally derived from the Baltic Thunder Goddess.

    In the book: About the Faith of Old Slovenes by Nikola Grzhteetić, he mentions Perunika but I cannot read Slovenia text.  There is also Marija Gimbutas’s book the Gods and Goddesses of Old Europe: 7000 bce to 3500 bce. 

    Gudiri-mumi – Russia – Thunder Goddess
    Rauni – Finland – Thunder Goddess
    Percuna-tele – Poland – Mother of Thunder 

    #446850

    Anonymous

    Peperuna, (Slavic) – Thunder goddess and the mother of the sun-goddess Solntse. Her twin brother was the thunder-god Perun. (Bulfinch)

    #446851

    Anonymous

    GODDESSES

    SLAVIC (More than one Slavic Country)
    Astrik – Anastasius, Astericus, Ascrick, Astricus – Slavic – Goddess of illusion
    Babe Kasha – Slavic – Lady Gruel
    Beda – Slavic – Goddess of Disaster (Beda and Fimila)
    Bereginy – Slavic – Female spirits of nature
    Bereguni – Slavic – River Nymphs
    Berehynia – Slavic – River Bank, Protect
    Bestalannitsa – Slavic – Goddess of the unfortunate

    Chuma/Tshuma – Slavic – Fate, Plague
    Debena – Slavic – Goddess of the Hunt and Forests
    Dennitsa – Slavic – Morning Star Goddess
    Devana – Slavic – Goddess of the Hunt
    Dodol – Slavic – Goddess of the clouds, snow, rain and air. (Serbia Doda or Dodola)

    Dolya – Slavic – Goddess of luck, happiness and fate
    Dziewona – Slavic – Maiden Goddess
    Gore – Slavic – Goddess of Grief

    Kamennaia Baba – Slavic – The Stone Mothers
    Khoromozitel – Slavic – house spirit
    Kikimora – Slavic – Female house spirit
    Kostroma- Slavic – Fertility Spring Maiden Goddess 
    Koliada, Koljada, Kolyada, Koleda – Slavic – Goddess personification of the winter solstice
    Kupalo – Slavic – Mother of the Waters
    Kude-wodez– Slavic  Cheremis – Spirit of water
    Lada – Slavic – Mother Goddess, Fertility

    Marzanna – Dark Goddess of Winter, Death and Rebirth
    Matka Gabia – Slavic – Goddess of Hearth Fire
    Matergabia – Slavic – Goddess of fire
    Mora – Slavic – Fate
    Moravaya Panna – Slavic – Black Goddess
    Najade – Slavic – Water nymphs
    Nav – Slavic – Goddess of Death
    Nedolya – Slavic – Goddess of dissatisfaction *version of Dolya
    Nestrecha – Slavic – Goddess of grief and failure
    Nuzhda – Slavic – Goddess of hardship and poverty
    Oynyena Mavia – Slavic – Fiery Mary

    Pogoda – Slavic – Goddess of Favorable Wind
    Peperuna – Slavic – Thunder goddess, mother of sun-goddess Solntse, twin brother Perun
    Perchta – Slavic – Fertility Goddess
    Perkuna Tete – Slavic – Goddess of Thunder
    Poludnitsa – Slavic – Female nature-spirit
    Polunocnica – Slavic, Ukraine – Lady Midnight
    Poluvirica – Slavic – Female forest-spirit

    Si – Slavic – Goddess of Justice 
    Siwa– Slavic – Goddess of fertility and love 
    Solbon – Slavic – Goddess Morning Star and Evening Star
    Solntse – Slavic – Sun Goddess
    Tabiti – Scythian – Fire Goddess

    Ustrecha – Slavic – Goddess of happiness and luck
    Vedma – Slavic – Goddess of Storms
    Vila, Veela – Slavic – Goddess of Storms
    Vagneg-imi – Slavic – Old Woman
    Vel’-ava – Slavic – Village Mother
    Vechernyaya Zvezda – Slavic – The Morning Star

    Zaria – Slavic – Goddess of Beauty
    Zarya – Slavic – Goddess of healing waters
    Zemlya Syra – Slavic – Earth Goddess
    Ziva Siva – Slavic – Goddess of life
    Zhiva – West Slavic – Goddess of life force
    Zoria – Slavic – Three goddesses of Dawn. Utrennyaya – Morning star, Vechernyaya Evening star, Polunochnaya Midnight star
    Zorya Utrennyaya – Slavic – Dawn, Aurora of the Morning
    Zorya Vechernyaya – Slavic – Dusk, Aurora of the Evening

    Zvezda Dennitsa – Slavic – The Morning Star

    BOHEMIA 
    Dive Zeny – Bohemia – Wild Woman

    GEORGIA
    Adgilis Deda (ადგილის დედა) – Georgian – Goddess fertility of mountains

    FINNO-UGRIC
    Ava – Finno-Ugric – Mother
    Cacce-jienne – Finno-Ugric – Water Mother

    Loddiu-edne – Finno-Ugric/Lapland – Bird Mother
    Kuutar – Finno-Ugric – Shining
    Idem-huva – Finno-Ugric – Threshing Barn Woman
    Ilma – Finno-Ugric – Atmosphere

    Kalma – Finno-Ugric – Corpse Stench
    Kul – Finno-Ugric – Water Dweller
    Kutugia – Siberia – Mistress of the Fire
    Luonnotar – Finno-Ugric/Lapland – Daughter of Nature
    Maddarakka – Finno-Ugric – Old Woman
    Mannu – Finno-Ugric – Mother Earth
    Mere-ama – Finno-Ugric/Finland – Sea Mother
    Metsanneitsyt – Finno-Ugric/Finland – Forest Virgin
    Mielikki – Finno-Ugric/Finland – Friendly
    Moksha – Finno-Ugric/Finland – Giver of Life

    Nakki – Finno-Ugric/Estonia – Water Maid
    Perke – Finno-Ugric – Success
    Radien-akka – Finno-Ugric – Mother
    Risem-edne – Finno-Ugric/Norway – Twig Mother
    Sadsta-akka – Finno-Ugric/Lapland – Cloven Wood
    Sjojungfru – Finno-Ugric/Lapland – Lady of the Sea

    Tshadze-ienne – Finno-Ugric/Lapland – Eastern Water Mother
    Tshatse-neida – Finno-Ugric/Lapland – Western Water Mother
    Uksakka – Finno-Ugric/Lapland – Door Woman
    Vellamo – Finno-Ugric/Finland – Rock Oneself
    Viljaneitsi – Finno-Ugric – Maidens of the Cornfield
    Vir-ava – Finno-Ugric/Russia – Forest Mother
    Wut-awa – Finno-Ugric – Mother of Water
    Yabme-akka – Finno-Ugric/Lapland – Old Woman of the Dead

    LATVIA
    Briet u-mate – Latvia – Mother of Elle
    Darzu-mate – Latvia – Mother of the Garden
    Dziparu-mate – Latvia – of Colored Wool, Yarn Mother
    Juras Mate – Latvia – Mother of the Sea
    Kapu Mate – Latvia – Graveyard Mother
    Meza-mate – Latvia – Mother of the Forest

    Lauka-mate – Latvia – Mother of the fertile land
    Lazdu-mate – Latvia – Mother of Hazel
    Linu-mate – Latvia – Mother of Flax
    Naves-mate – Latvia – Mother of Death
    Ogu-mate – Latvia – Berry Mother
    Piegulas Mate – Latvia – Mother of the Night Watch
    Smilsu-mate – Latvia – Mother of Sand
    Sniega Mate – Latvia – Snow Mother
    Semmesmaat – Latvia – Keeper of the Grave
    Senu-mate – Latvia – Mother of Mushrooms

    Udens-mate – Latvia – Mother of the Water
    Uguns-mate – Latvia – Mother of Fire
    Veja-mate – Latvia – Wind Mother
    Zeme – Latvia – Mother of the Earth
    Ziedu-mate – Baltic – Mother of the Blossoms

    LITHUANIA
    Ausrine – Lithuania – Lady of the Morning Star
    Balta Saulite – Lithuania – Darling Little White Sun
    Dugnai – Lithuania – That Which Is at the Bottom
    Egle – Lithuania – Queen of the Serpents, Fir
    Polengabia – Lithuania – Bright Hearth
    Rigiu Boba – Lithuania – Old One of the Rye
    Indraja – Lithuania – Water Witch
    Laume – Lithuania – Earthly Mother

    Sweigs-dunka – Lithuania – Weaver or Bride of the Sky
    Saule – Lithuania – Sun Goddess
    Saules-mate – Lithuania – Sun Mother
    Saules-Meita – Lithuania – Little Sun, Daughter of the Sun
    Saulite Sudrabota – Lithuania – Little Silver Moon
    Zemyna – Lithuania – Mother Earth

    MAGYAR / HUNGARY
    Ja neb’a – Magyar (Hungarian) – Benevolent Goddess of the Earth
    Viz-Anya – Magyar (Hungarian) – Water Mother
    Viz-Leany – Magyar (Hungarian) – Water Daughter
    Szelanya – Magyar (Hungarian) – Mother of the Winds

    POLAND
    Dilwica – Polish, Serbian, Slavic – Goddess of the Hunt
    Dziewona– Polish – Goddess of the Hunt and Forests
    Dziwosony – Poland – Wild Woman
    Mamony – Poland – Wild Woman
    Percunatele – Poland – Mother of Thunder 

    RUSSIA
    Awa – Russia – Mother
    Azer-ava – Russia – Mistress
    Baba Yaga (Jaga) – Russia – Grandmother
    Cuvto-ava – Russia – Tree Mother

    Gudiri-mumi – Russia – Mother of Thunder
    Iarila – Russia – Ardent Sun
    Jurt-ava – Russia – Dwelling Place Mother
    Keca Aba – Russia – Mother Sun
    Ketse-awa – Russia – Mother of the Sun
    Kildisin – Russia/Siberia – Procreating Heaven
    Kos La-kuva – Russia – Old Woman of the Forest
    Kud-ava – Russia – House Mother
    Kugu Shotshen-ava – Russia – Great Birthgiving Mother

    Mati-syra-zemla – Russia – Mother Moist Earth
    Melande-awa – Russia – Mother of the Earth
    Mokosh – Russia – Moist
    Mukylcin – Russia – Earth Wife
    Muzem-mumy – Russia – Mother of the Earth
    Neukeper-ava – Russia – Bee Garden Mother
    Nishke-ava – Russia – Great Birth-Giving Mother
    Paks-av – Russia – Mother Field
    Purt-kuva – Russia – House Woman
    Ptitsy-siriny – Russia – Bird Maiden

    Razorites – Russia – goddess of destiny, guardian of all living things
    Rodnaia Matushka – Russia – Birth Mother
    Rozanicy – Russia – Mother, Heritage, Destiny
    Rozhenitsa – Russia – Birth Giver
    Shundimumi – Russia – Mother of the Sun
    Sjantaik – Russia – Birth Mother
    Seewa – Russia – Mother Friday
    Slatababa – Russia – Golden Woman
    Sor-ava – Russia – Mother of Corn
    Sundy-mumy – Russia – Mother of the Sun
    Sur-mumy – Russia – Mother of River

    Teleze-awa – Russia – Mother of the Moon
    Tul-awa – Russia – Mother of Fire
    Teterka – Russia – Graybird
    Vaku-oza – Russia – Mill Ruler
    Varma-ava – Russia – Mother Wind
    Vu-ava – Russia – Water Woman
    Vut-kuva – Russia – Water Old Woman
    Vit’sa-kuva – Russia – Cattleyard Woman
    Zimarzla – Russia – The Frozen
    Zlotababa – Russia Golden Old Woman

    SIBERIA
    Ajysit – Siberia Milk Lake Mother
    Anapel – Siberia – Little Grandmother
    Ya’hal-na’ut – Siberia – Cloud Woman
    Edji – Siberia – Mother
    Ehe Tazar – Siberia – Mother Earth
    Ilena – Siberia – Rain Woman or Dampness Woman
    Joli-taren -Siberia – Giver of Life
    Khosadam – Siberia – Eater of Souls
    Kubai-khotun – Siberia Great Mother

    Locid-epie – Siberia – Grandmother of the Fire
    Lymyzn-mam – Siberia – Mistress of the Threshold
    Manzan Gurmu – Siberia – Heavenly Goddess
    Ojid-emei – Siberia – Water Mother
    Pugud-emei – Siberia – Sun Mother
    Sabaga – Siberia – Mother of Fire
    Sangia-mama – Siberia – Mistress of the Earth and the World
    Selci-syt-emysyt – Siberia – Mother of Snakes

    Tarn – Siberia – Flames of Fire
    Toe-ceivune – Siberia – Dawn-walking-Woman
    Unchi-ahchi – Siberia – Grandmother Hearth
    Unen-emei – Siberia – Mother of the Korkodon River
    Y-lyunda Kotta – Siberia – Mistress of the Universe

    SLOVENIA
    Kuga – Slovenia – Fate
    Os Keca Aba – White Sun Mother
    Ot Ana – Slovenia – Fire

    UKRAINE
    Lada – Ukraine – Mother goddess 
    Lelya – Ukraine – maiden goddess of love
    Mokosha, Makozh – Ukraine – Goddess Mother
    Mara – Ukraine – Dark goddess of dreams, other worlds, ghosts

    Poludnitsy – Ukraine – Moon Goddess
    Polunocnica – Slavic, Ukraine – Lady Midnight

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