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  • #344666

    Anonymous

    Can Russian brothers tell me about rodnoverie orgs.,how many are there in Russia and Ukraine and more infos of them ?

    #401980

    Anonymous

    Honestly I as an rodzimowierca doesn't feel offended, rather amused. ;D Yes that are facts, can't deny it… but these are facts among other facts. Sometimes we, in Poland are just surprised by shape of rodnovere in Russia… we're closer to Ukrainian rodnovere organizations like Об’єднання рідновірів України but still have contact with some people from Союз Славянских Общин.

    Trehlebov is far well known among anticapitalistic/anti NWO/alternativo people rather than among rodnovery :)

    Just like in Poland some organizations (like Nigdy Więcej – an antifascist movement) slender us (Rodzima Wiara) as nazis pointing usage of svastica and some stupid skins claimed to be an rodnover… so lame…

    #401981

    Anonymous

    While offended rodnovers don't use administrative resource against "dissidents" I have to continue the list :)

    [img width=466 height=700]http://www.velesovkrug.ru/images/stories/85f35309c5b5.jpg” />

    Probably, the most "normal" Rodnover I know is Veleslav Cherkesov  aka "Veleslav". His more or less detailed biography from pagan site you can readhere.  I don't share his views, but at the same time I can't call him a *** nor very obvious liar nor something else. Any disputes against him comes from not serious sources, I don't want to mention them. The only thing that I like – this is what he called himself "National-socialist", I hope it was not just words.  Seems, this man seriously believes into his pagan views.

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    The following text you can consider as a trolling or provocation, but I don't care. Unless user chertoslav has come back here, I seriously want to ask you Rodnovers about Veleslav.

    On his sites I often find positive comments of different people about Veleslav. Among those people are always somebody famous from India. It's not surprising, because this man believes into strange mix of remnants of paganism and Indian religions. Look at these real photos:

    [img width=700 height=552]http://pandoraopen.ru/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/71d13_6e8e270e0e43f11e9e9f8a5274d8e79c.jpg” />

    image [img width=508 height=700]http://pandoraopen.ru/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/71d13_siva2.jpg” />

    all those elephants, tropical snakes and other "Slavic" tatooes on his body

    image  image

    I recommend you to read this article:http://pandoraopen.ru/2011-03-10/veleslav-poklonnik-chernoj-bogini-kali-ma/

    Pagans-authors claim, that Veleslav is a fan of Indian goddess of death "Kali" (or something like that). That mythological creation has nothing to do with our Slavic-Aryan roots and direct copying of totally black religion is meaningless and stupid. Moreover, Indians would never allow Slavic elements in their cult.

    So, what do you all think about this? If you pretend to be the most white religion, why all that black stuff is allowed? And please, avoid of using insults and other typical "arguments" of some pagans this site. I hope, we are all civilized people.

    #401982

    Anonymous

    Maybe I'll surprise you but we (Rodzima Wiara) feel also strong connected with Hindu religion. Our Naczelnik (Glava) often writes about Rygveda: http://www.rodzimawiara.org.pl/ksiaznica/artykuly/190-prapoczatek.html .

    We share some concepts with Hinduism as a Aryan religion.

    A Hindu organization is an observer in ECER (former WCER). One of WCER conference was in India:

    http://www.rodzimawiara.org.pl/galeria/wiece-i-konferencje/wiece-i-konferencje/konferencja-wcer-w-indiach-dajpur-radastan-5-10-luty-2006.html

    Me myself feel strong reverence to Hindu Gods and their Avatars.

    I don't prose Kali :) if anybody ask? ;) Believe me it's hard for Christians to understand Hinduism so don't judge Kali cult. Concept of Kali is derived from Lord Shiva – the Destroyer. You posted his picture also. Shiva is a part of Trimurti: Brahma (Creator) + Vishnu (Maintainer) + Vishnu (Destroyer). Life is a circle – old must die and pass away to make place for newborn. There is also female equivalent for Trimurti – Tridevi: Sarasvati, Lakshmi and Durga. Just look for images of Durga.

    As far I know Veleslav is just fascinated by Kali cult but he is not a Thugee :)

    But this is just for another topic about Hinduism and its connection in Slavdom…

    #401983

    Anonymous
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    Maybe I'll surprise you but we (Rodzima Wiara) feel also strong connected with Hindu religion. Our Naczelnik (Glava) often writes about Rygveda: http://www.rodzimawiara.org.pl/ksiaznica/artykuly/190-prapoczatek.html .

    We share some concepts with Hinduism as a Aryan religion.

    A Hindu organization is an observer in ECER (former WCER). One of WCER conference was in India:

    http://www.rodzimawiara.org.pl/galeria/wiece-i-konferencje/wiece-i-konferencje/konferencja-wcer-w-indiach-dajpur-radastan-5-10-luty-2006.html

    Me myself feel strong reverence to Hindu Gods and their Avatars.

    Thanks, I'm aware about connection between ancient Slavs and other aryans, and about origin of ancient White people in india. But imho it would be reasonable to use only Aryan remnants of hindu religion. In the text posted above Veleslav uses obviously non-Aryan elements of Hinduism, imcompatible with Slavdom. Authors freely offer him to move to Hinduism.

    On this background, pagan accusations against Christians of our "non-white" origin are not serious.

    #401984

    Anonymous
    Quote:
    Maybe I'll surprise you but we (Rodzima Wiara) feel also strong connected with Hindu religion. Our Naczelnik (Glava) often writes about Rygveda: http://www.rodzimawiara.org.pl/ksiaznica/artykuly/190-prapoczatek.html .

    We share some concepts with Hinduism as a Aryan religion.

    A Hindu organization is an observer in ECER (former WCER). One of WCER conference was in India:

    Me myself feel strong reverence to Hindu Gods and their Avatars.

    I dont think anybody should be surprised at all. :) Hinduism have strong roots in Proto-Indo-European mythology. Also it preserved most archaic of IE languages Sanskrt. But, also it has some concepts taken from pre-IE religion of India. Don't you feel confused over it?

    Please don't take this as any kind provocation, just question out of curiousity.

    #401985

    Anonymous

    @Dalibor: Our Naczelnik often quote Rygveya and that is it. No other elements of Hinduism are present in our movement… Rodzima Wiara uses Slavic originated names and rituals. So nobody is confused then ;)

    As to myself – I'm just fascinated by Hinduism (also studying Buddhism for nearly 9 years) and for sure I can't call myself a Hinduist :)

    Veleslav probably is also fascinated but he goes much further – his choice, if it suits him…

    #401986

    Anonymous
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    @Dalibor: Our Naczelnik often quote Rygveya and that is it. No other elements of Hinduism are present in our movement… Rodzima Wiara uses Slavic originated names and rituals. So nobody is confused then ;)

    Thanks for explaination. History of Rigveda is quite fascinating. It was preserved oraly for centuries, among brahmins before being written.  Also, I think it is oldes layer of Vedas, and probaly oldest Indo-European literature. I guess then there is no confusion at all. 

    #401987

    Anonymous

    I could be more accurate quoting:

    Kluczem do zrozumienia przesłania Rgvedy jest jej 129 hymn w X kręgu – mandali zwany Nasadiya

    A key to understand a message of Rgveda is a 129 hymn of X's circle of mandala called Nasadiya…

    For more: http://rodzimawiara.org.pl/ksiaznica/artykuly/165-stanisaw-potrzebowski-duchowo-aryo-sowian.html (Stanisław Potrzebowski – Duchowość Aryo-Słowian [Arya-Slavic Spirituality] but only in Polish.

    Also here:

    http://rodzimawiara.org.pl/ksiaznica/artykuly/8-znaczenie-hymnu-129-z-10-mandali-rgweedy-dla-odrodzenia-polskiej-prawiary.html

    Stanisław Potrzebowski – Znaczenie hymnu 129 z 10 mandali Rgweedy dla odrodzenia polskiej prawiary  (The meaning of 129 hymn of 10's mandala of Rgweeda for revival of Polish Old Faith)

    #401988

    Anonymous
    Quote:
    I could be more accurate quoting:

    For more: http://rodzimawiara.org.pl/ksiaznica/artykuly/165-stanisaw-potrzebowski-duchowo-aryo-sowian.html (Stanisław Potrzebowski – Duchowość Aryo-Słowian [Arya-Slavic Spirituality] but only in Polish.

    Also here:

    http://rodzimawiara.org.pl/ksiaznica/artykuly/8-znaczenie-hymnu-129-z-10-mandali-rgweedy-dla-odrodzenia-polskiej-prawiary.html

    Stanisław Potrzebowski – Znaczenie hymnu 129 z 10 mandali Rgweedy dla odrodzenia polskiej prawiary  (The meaning of 129 hymn of 10's mandala of Rgweeda for revival of Polish Old Faith)

    Do you know of any English language text of this hymn?

    #401989

    Anonymous
    #401990

    Anonymous
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    Thx. Btw people there is one cool movie made according to Mahabharata. Well it is more like filmed theater play so it doesn't have any flashy Hollywood effects and battles but its very good and very long. I think couple of hours. Really interesting movie indeed. It is The Mahabharata (1989 film). Some of you people who are more of racist types, etc. might not like it since actors are of many origins like black, asian, etc. However i think this is good since Indian art portrays many figures in different colors anyway. :D

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    Mahabharata (P.Brook) – Dharma questions Yudhishthira

    #401991

    Anonymous
    #401992

    Anonymous

    "The name Kali comes from kāla, which means black, time, death, lord of death, Shiva. Since Shiva is called Kāla—the eternal time—Kālī, his consort, also means "Time" or "Death" (as in time has come). Hence, Kāli is the Goddess of Time and Change."

    Saying that Kali-Ma with her attributes does not belong in the Aryan pantheon is like saying the Slavic Goddess of death Mara is not Slavic because she is dark and evil. Kali-Ma and Mara's attributes are pretty much identical and most likely are the same archetype. Rodnoverie is not all "hippie/peaceful" like it is perceived to be by naive people. People that do not understand the Native Faith often have a hard time understanding the concept of the yin yang, darkness & light being intertwined and supporting each other.

    In order for there to be a solution there needs to be a problem.

    Gods are personifications of the functions of the cosmos

    #401993

    Anonymous
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    I know that film… sorry but it's daub. When I saw Ganesh with head of papier-mâché… eh.

    I really like the film exactly becouse it has more theater like approach. Their acting style, their speech style, their vocabulary, and all made me more interested in the actual content than if they would use Lord of the Rings "style" acting. Those are elements that i really prefer over other things. As always each has his own taste. :D Btw that cartoon is not avalible for me. :)

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