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    Boris V.
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    Slavic Neopaganism (also known as Slavianism or Rodnovery) which literally means "native faith") is a modern polytheistic, reconstructionistic, and Neopagan religion; its adherents call themselves Rodnovers (Ukrainian: Ridnovers), and consider themselves to be the legitimate continuation of pre-Christian Slavic religion.
    Rebirth of Slavic spirituality

    The pre-Christian religions of the Slavic peoples probably died out slowly in the countryside after the official adoption of Christianity (Moravia in 863, Poland in 966, Kievan Rus' in 988). Those Pagan religious practices that were not adopted into Christian folk practice were probably stamped out by the 15th century; however, some modern Rodnovers make use of 19th century folk practices that may be altered survivals of the earlier religion.

    In the 19th century, many Slavic nations experienced a Romantic fascination with an idealised Slavic Arcadia that was believed to exist before Christianity arrived, which combined such notions as the noble savage and Johann Gottfried Herder's national spirit. In the absence of extensive written or archaeological evidence for the destroyed Slavic religion, these artistic visions were important in rebuilding interest in the lost Slavic heritage after the unmitigated condemnation of medieval Christian writers. Zorian Do??ga-Chodakowski's 1818 pamphlet "O S?awia?szczy?nie przed chrze?cija?stwem" (About the Slavs before Christianity) would later prove to be an influential proto-Neopagan manifesto with its depiction of "two cultures" in the Slavic lands; one was the original pure Slavic culture of the peasants, the other was the imported foreign culture of the nobility. Unlike earlier authors, Do??ga-Chodakowski identified Christianity as a negative influence on national character.

    #348384

    Anonymous

    My impression is that most rodnovery only make some "reconstructed" rites and only say words about "be closer to nature" etc. With that, most rodnovery live in cities. People, this is not religion, this is only label! Can someone of rodnovery explain me, may be I am wrong?

    #348385

    Anonymous

    Whole concept of neo-paganism is simply return to pre-Christian original native faith and culture of Slavs.

    Sure, it is reconstructed, but what else can be expected? Ancient Slavic rituals, festivals and rites were practiced centuries ago and passed down from generation to generation in those times. There is no recorded way of how things were done.

    But it is religion. It is modern-day interpretation and at same time, return to roots of ancient Slavic tradition.

    "Being closer to nature" is perfectly natural feeling to have and ties in very much with our ancestors, since they lived in nature and relied on it for survival in ancient times. Respect for nature is something key to all ancient pagan religions.

    #348386

    Anonymous

    But can someone explain to me, how possible is to “be closer to nature” when you live in city? City is already against to nature, no?

    #348388

    Anonymous

    It is silly when people live in a big city and then go to the woods three days in a year and then say that they are closer to nature. It is different with people who live in a city but go fishing,hunting, hiking, etc. They are litlle bit closer to nature then the other city residents, but it still isn’t for religious reasons.

    #348389

    Anonymous

    I wouldn’t say cities are against the nature. Only people can act against the nature. Many of them just didn’t decide themselves to born in cities, but they feel like they belong to the nature more than to the city. It’s feeling, it’s hard to interpret it perfectly by words (e.g. try to explain what is love feeling). Yes, they can move to the village, but not everybody has got finances to build any house (mainly young people), or even better they can move to the pure nature.. ok and what there? A man is a social being in general who need to live in a community. So, old times had gone, we live in another era and if we do want to keep traditions of our ancestors, being in touch with nature and acting like that is a perfect way how to achieve that – and it does not matter where you live.

    #348391

    Anonymous

    We're humans, we act according to our nature. Our ancestors would have been proud to sit upon the porceline throne as opposed to a smelly ditch.

    #348392

    Anonymous

    @Kuzik  You are absolutely right. I wrote something similar in another thread about people who try to imitate the way our ancestors lived.

    #348393

    Anonymous

    Yeah, it’s only sensible to invent things and move up the shit ladder. However, wouldn’t it be okay to act like a peasant for reenactment’s sake?

    #348395

    Anonymous

    Of course, for reenactment there’s nothing wrong with it.

    #348400

    Anonymous

    Slavic pagan symbolism:

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    One of most important was the Solar Symbol for the God of Sun: Dadzbog, with so many symbols like SWASTIKA (who it’s not nazi symbols but used in all Europe since beginning of history and it is strongly emphasized that this symbol is for Religion!)

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    SWASTIKA or SUNWHEEL was and is again so important in Slavic Faith but in all Pagan Religion in Europe and exist since 10 000 years! In Slavic countries first Swastika found is more of 6000 years old!!! it means good favor of gods, the quest for success, victory in battle, good yields. Like some pagan celebrations that will last until today, despite Christianity, Pagan symbols are still used in many countries.

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    RECE BOGA is a proto Slavic symbol of the Slavic Faith (the Hands of God), it’s 4 hands (with 3, 5 or 6 fingers) stylised in a cross and often represented with 4 Solar symbols (Swastika) between the hands… The 4 Hands represent the 4 directions of a suprem God but no gods are represented with 4 hands … so maybe it can only be a sacred symbol Slave with a wrong name …. Great symbol used in all Slavic Territory!

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    TRISKEL means many things so it’s why it’s an important Symbol like the others (Past, Present, Future), (Standbuy, Sleep, Dream), (Childhood, Adulthood, Old Age), (Sky, Air, Land) it’s also the symbol for communication with the divine 3 levels.

    Many more Symbols are used in Slavic Countries for differents Gods or other but here are the most important and today in the come back of our Faith we need to wear them with Honor like our Ancestors!!!

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    Perun was the God of Warriors and lightning and in the last years of Paganism the most important God! three symbols are identified for him and they protect people against ligthning and bad things in life. One of these is the AXE TALISMAN who represent the weapon of Perun.(like the Hammer of Thor).

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    SWARZYCA it’s a great Slavic Pagan Symbol or maybe Proto Slavic! like Hand of God it’s a pure Slavic Symbol. The carved Swarzyca appear in a wall stone of a collegiate church at Kruszwica in Poland and it certainly a part from an ancient Slavic Temple in Poland destroyed.

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    It’s not really a symbol but I need to show MASKS of an important celebration as DZIADY. these MASKS are used during the Ritual when Spirits of the underworld come back on Earth. It’s the good day for them to visit us and their Families but at the place of celebration, humans can’t look them except Slavic “Priests” with these Masks to look like spirits too. It’s a really important thing!

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    The world for Slavic believers was represented like a TREE or like 3 LEVELS with in the top Gods, in the center, Humans people and the last level for the world of Dead. 3 words to explain the differents levels are Praw, Yaw and Naw.

    http://oceanospotamos.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/slavic-symbols/

    #348401

    Anonymous

    I think the attraction to such reenactments is partly because people used to be a lot less wasteful. Sure, our ancestors lived primitive lives compared to now. However, our great leaps in technological progress have led to rampant decadence and incredible wastefulness. We live on the planet and not with the planet. And we all know what happens to those who bite the hand that feeds them.

    #348408

    Anonymous

    @Husarz True enough, you make a valid point.

    #348413

    Anonymous

    That’s one of the main problems of the modern world: technical and scientific progress went faster than our spiritual development. However, instead of dismissing all the things achieved in the afromentioned fields in the fallacy of “going back to the roots” we should instead strife to lift our spirituality to a higher level. A truly Aryan civilization needs both, technic and scientific progress as well as spiritual progress. Stagnation, no matter in which field, inevitably leads to decay.

    #348419

    Anonymous

    Your right about the stagnation part. The “going back to our roots” is sort of misleading, as the real solution is actually to bring our roots to the forefront and current time as a part of bringing our madly careening civilization to a good balance.

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