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- December 7, 2012 at 11:19 pm #344856
I read some times before that our Slavic religion and Hinduism have very close relations,an example our Heaven Svarga and Indian Svarga Loka and Indra and Perun,what you think about that ?December 7, 2012 at 11:39 pm #406688
We do have some similar gods, I can't remember any examples right now, maybe Živa ( Żiwia, Siva, Sieba ,Razivia) ?December 7, 2012 at 11:51 pm #406689
I only know of Perun-Indra simmilaritie and Surya-sun god and one offtopic most people in Europe when India come in mind they think of gypsies but little offtopic yesterday iread in newspaper gypsies indeed come from India but from lowest caste of untouchablesDecember 7, 2012 at 11:53 pm #406690
I've read that to, I don't think it's hard to guess where do they come from but I'm not sure how can they know from which caste are they.December 7, 2012 at 11:58 pm #406691
i'am not 100% sure but i read that Indoeuropeans(Aryans) are light skined and light haired hight castes and that dark skined dravidian low castesDecember 8, 2012 at 3:20 pm #406692
Since they are Indo-europeans this means they have some similarities but naturally they must have picked many elements from other non-Indo-europeans like Dravidians, etc. In any case to me gypsies indeed look kinda similar to Indians.December 9, 2012 at 2:02 pm #406693
Gypsies are acctually Indo-Aryans From lowest caste, sure, but their language is Indo-European. Anyway, it depnds, there are moderatly light skined Brahmins, but most of them are dark skinned.December 19, 2012 at 3:01 am #406694
Volodymyr Shayan has done a lot of work on linking the Aryan religions together. It is too bad that most of his material is in Ukrainian, & I am sure you would not want to use Google translate to read his work. But if you do here is a link.
But just to show you a basic connection. Triglav(the Trimurti in the Vedas) being Svarog(Creator), Perun(Destroyer/Transformer) Svetovid (Maintainer/Protector). The our relatives the Aryans that migrated to India used the name Brahma(Creator), Shiva(Destroyer/Transformer) Vishnu(Maintainer/Protector).
You can read of the Trimurti in detail here..
You can see the similarities for example between Svetovid and Kalki one of the incarnations of Vishnu.
You may find this interesting as well.December 19, 2012 at 3:11 am #406695
AnonymousQuote:But just to show you a basic connection. Triglav(the Trimurti in the Vedas) being Svarog(Creator), Perun(Destroyer/Transformer) Svetovid (Maintainer/Protector). The our relatives the Aryans that migrated to India used the name Brahma(Creator), Shiva(Destroyer/Transformer) Vishnu(Maintainer/Protector).
Perun is the same god as Indra, not Shiva. The god of sky and thunder was traditionally the head of the Indo-European pantheon. This was the case in the Greek, Roman, Celtic, Baltic and Slavic folk religions, and was once the case in Germanic religion as well (until Odin/Wodan/Wuotan became the chief god at a later point).
Furthermore, it's been theorized that Perun and Svetovid are the same deity, and that the latter is just a local West Slavic variant.December 19, 2012 at 3:31 am #406696
AnonymousQuote:LOL. Perun is the same god as Indra, not Shiva. The god of sky and thunder was traditionally the head of the Indo-European pantheon.
Furthermore, it's been theorized that Perun and Svetovid are the same deity, and that the latter is just a local West Slavic variant.
"Vajra is a Sanskrit word meaning both thunderbolt and diamond".
Indra wields a Vajra, Shiva wields a Trishula.
The Vajra is like a lesser or different form of the Trishula. Shiva is like a higher or different form of Indra, sort of like Kalki is the incarnation of Vishnu, Vishnu being the higher or different form. It is common for deities to be split into different lesser deities in Paganism. Deities are not meant to be seen as something separate or different, everything is merged in one with Svarog (Brahman). Think of it as all the gears working together to create a watch.
"Shiva as we know him today shares many features with the Vedic god Rudra, and both Shiva and Rudra are viewed as the same personality in a number of Hindu traditions. Rudra, the god of the roaring storm, is usually portrayed in accordance with the element he represents as a fierce, destructive deity."
" Shiva is a continuation of the Vedic Indra. He gives several reasons for his hypothesis. Both Shiva and Indra are known for having a thirst for Soma. Both are associated with mountains, rivers, male fertility, fierceness, fearlessness, warfare, transgression of established mores, the Aum sound, the Supreme Self. In the Rig Veda the term śiva is used to refer to Indra. Indra, like Shiva, is likened to a bull. In the Rig Veda, Rudra is the father of the Maruts, but he is never associated with their warlike exploits as is Indra."
What we have to keep in mind is that Europe went through the Dark Ages where much of the knowledge of the faith of our ancestors was lost. Over time things can get diluted etc. Much of the basis of our ancestors faith has survived in India thanks to the fact that Christians did not have a chance to start a Crusade to take over India.
The Gods can be seen as being polyvalent by nature.
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